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On the same subject, there was a post on facebook a couple of days ago. " Why waste the vaccines on the old, they have one foot in the grave." Hasten to add not my words, he was quickly shouted down. But the sad thing is there are some "people" who think like that.
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I'm with you about the present crop of public educated (though I was thinking of a bit lower level such as grammer) Richard Heads. I doubt if 100% of, say, 58,000 people who tested positive have isolated themselves unless on the public purse. Same as those who holidayed abroad and was supposed to quarantine for 14 days. It's just reality common sense! Kev |
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The list of who should be first in line is never ending, these industries are what keeps the country going, electric, water, gas, telecommunications, food, waste, imports, oil, NHS, police, fire, motor, public transport, haulage/transport are just a few. macafee2 |
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I don't think teachers should be singled out for praise over any other individual whether employed in the public sector or private, in any profession.
Every single person who has to work at the moment should be considered an equal in terms of "key worker" status, a phrase coined by spin doctors to add gravitas to certain professions quite wrongly. A hospital cannot function if there are no cleaners, porters, maintenance personnel etc, a school cannot function without caretakers, teachers support staff, or indeed pupils. If you walk into a supermarket you consider it normal for the shelves to be kept stocked, and staff to be on hand to assist, you expect your lights to come on when you flick a switch, the central heating boiler to work, your dustbin to be emptied when full, the ability to fill up your car if you need to travel to work etc etc. All of the above need to work, the bus to get you to work if you don't drive, all manner of support going on quietly in the background, not simply the stuff in the foreground and not one of these people, you or I should consider yourself a special case. However you look at it though there needs to be a balance made, it is simply not possible to mitigate every aspect of risk for every single member of society, and expect others to pick up the bill on our behalf. We are all part of a much larger machine called society, if any of the parts are missing then the machine doesn't work correctly. Brian |
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The intertwining of people going to the office is the people employed to get them there, public transport, fuel and then there is the shop they pop into on the way. The shop on the station platform cannot relocate and needs that commuter traffic to survive, without the commuter traffic they go to the wall but what of the staff? As businesses fold employment goes up but then another business starts and employment falls but perhaps not to the same degree. "New" businesses, Amazon, Hermes, Grocery home delivery, Costa Coffee.
Unemployment is currently on the rise but it will fall and certain sectors will bounce back very strongly, I think the relaxing of restrictions in 2020 proved that. Alas not every company will be here to bounce back. macafee2 |
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This all makes me think back to my own career and whether and how my own jobs would have fared in these current circumstances.
I suspect my last job as a redeployment consultant would have been ultra busy involving hours of work on Zoom etc and a lot less travel than when I did it. The wholesale marketing of Christmas trees probably didn't change much, but the management of merchant recruitment for payment card services probably involves furloughing a lot of staff.
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No need for either unnecessary praise or gratuitous abuse of teachers. One thing I will say is that as far as I'm aware, bus drivers, supermarket workers, carers, hospital workers et al aren't required to work in a room together with 30+ other people who are not wearing masks. This is all the more relevant now that a much more infectious strain of the virus is endemic in the population. If education staff can't be prioritised for receiving the vaccine, other steps should be taken to minimise the risk to their lives and health, e.g. using other venues for delivering classes such as theatres, cinemas and other large indoor spaces currently lying idle, proper resourcing of online education through the provision of laptops and decent broadband connection to every child who needs it. Yes this costs money, but so does failing to provide education. For that matter, so does bunging contracts for PPE or failed test & trace systems to your chums without due diligence, and that seems to be perfectly acceptable.
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The elderly could have been shielded (instead of being inoculated first) providing the care home staff were vaccinated. It should have been debated more! Cor, I wish my teachers took up strike action - being an avid cricket player. Think of the innings I could have completed. As I have re-stated. I don't believe all teachers are left-wing but their unions certainly are (just as Len McClusky - my union top dog -is and I don't like a lot of what he spouts). Kev |
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