MOT & road tax warning

Andy_with_a_screwdriver · 21st November 2018, 11:11

A few weeks back when I was on holiday in France, my MOT expired on my Vauxhall Combo. Due to an "administrative error" to book the test, I carried on using the van for four days after expiry until on a Friday I came to renew the insurance and realised I'd forgotten the MOT.
I phoned my garage asap and asked for the next test available, which unfortunately wasn't until 8am Monday. I explained to my customer I wouldn't be there on Friday as I couldn't use the van not wanting to risk it any more.

All turned out ok, MOT was passed with a couple warnings for a tyre wearing on an edge and corrosion on a brake pipe covered by grease.

Whilst waiting I was chatting to the lady who works/runs the garage and I was shocked to learn my road tax would be stopped had I not passed the mot.
Apparently if your MOT expires and road tax is bought monthly by direct debit, then the payment will not be taken from the bank if the MOT is expired. DVLA computers will automatically put a stop to the road tax meaning the vehicle suddenly becomes untaxed as well.

They had a notice on the wall explaining because another customer had found out this out the hard way when his payments stopped.
I can't see how this affects people who pay yearly for road tax, but will affect those using the monthly system.
Be warned!!

Clickernick · 21st November 2018, 12:16

Not heard of that!!
My mg not ran out of mot in March of this year and I put it of road till May, leaving tax in place, paid for monthly.
When mot passed in May, all was still ok re the tax. Payments never stopped and tax never ceased.
Sound a bit weird that!

Technically if you sorn it then yes, the tax stops, but not if you don’t! They love their money coming in!!!

75c · 21st November 2018, 13:11

dvla say they'll automatically stop them but they kept taking them from me for three months as well and mine wasn't insured during that time either.

derek v · 21st November 2018, 13:28

well i just checked my bank and the tax money for my G20 american van is still being taken. Plus did a tax checker and its still showing as taxed. Its been off the road since july 2018.

Andy_with_a_screwdriver · 21st November 2018, 13:42

Just checked my bank and my payment was taken on 01/11 despite the mot expiring on 27/10.

Also the customer I was working for at the time forgot that his MOT ran out in mid august and had been driving for over 2 months without it!

My phone call to him reminded him to check his tax which had also expired, after which he found no MOT either. He stuck on the drive asap!

Just shows there's not so many police about checking these things!

Nick Greg · 21st November 2018, 14:05

You can always cancel the direct debit yourself?

cbr1100xx · 21st November 2018, 14:44

I believe that if your car fails the mot (for example) on the 25th of the month then DVLA will tell you that they will automatically stop any payments as the car has no valid mot.
If you get a pass a couple of days later e.g. 27th or before the 1st of the month then payments automatically start up again without having to redo the direct debit.
Stan

bl52krz · 21st November 2018, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clickernick

Not heard of that!!
My mg not ran out of mot in March of this year and I put it of road till May, leaving tax in place, paid for monthly.
When mot passed in May, all was still ok re the tax. Payments never stopped and tax never ceased.
Sound a bit weird that!

Technically if you sorn it then yes, the tax stops, but not if you don’t! They love their money coming in!!!

Your situation is the same (similar) to the above post with regards to mot& tax.

jackatesme · 21st November 2018, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy_with_a_screwdriver

Just checked my bank and my payment was taken on 01/11 despite the mot expiring on 27/10.

Also the customer I was working for at the time forgot that his MOT ran out in mid august and had been driving for over 2 months without it!

My phone call to him reminded him to check his tax which had also expired, after which he found no MOT either. He stuck on the drive asap!

Just shows there's not so many police about checking these things!

Seen someone get pulled over by unmarked police car this morning.1st one i've seen this year

,not complaining about police, i always blame too many cut backs.

Comfortably Numb · 21st November 2018, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek v

well i just checked my bank and the tax money for my G20 american van is still being taken. Plus did a tax checker and its still showing as taxed. Its been off the road since july 2018.

Surely, if it's off the road (not MoTd), it should be SORNed?Even if you have left the tax on it?

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Clickernick Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connie SE Tourer Triumph Street Triple R Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bletchley, Milton Keynes Posts: 1,163 Thanks: 75 Thanked 91 Times in 65 Posts	Not heard of that!! My mg not ran out of mot in March of this year and I put it of road till May, leaving tax in place, paid for monthly. When mot passed in May, all was still ok re the tax. Payments never stopped and tax never ceased. Sound a bit weird that! Technically if you sorn it then yes, the tax stops, but not if you don’t! They love their money coming in!!! __________________ Real walnut interior. Original refurbished Forked Spokes 16” with Michelin Primacy 4 rubber, Pioneer AVH-Z9200DAB double din Wi Fi phone integration. Retrofitted twin front horns. 160 re-map. Revotec fan. Silicone intercooler hoses and ‘O ring’ replacement. Top hose thermostat. New walnut and smokestone steering wheel with cruise upgrade. Brembo Brakes. Ceramic coated rear Exhaust. L/engine mount, Hydramount, Bosch MAF. Focal Access Drivers and Focal Amp.

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cbr1100xx Gets stuck in VW touareg Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: dunsop bridge Posts: 870 Thanks: 225 Thanked 414 Times in 235 Posts	I believe that if your car fails the mot (for example) on the 25th of the month then DVLA will tell you that they will automatically stop any payments as the car has no valid mot. If you get a pass a couple of days later e.g. 27th or before the 1st of the month then payments automatically start up again without having to redo the direct debit. Stan __________________ WE WERE BOTH BORN ON THE 4th of JULY CAR DIED 15/11/2022---I'M STILL GOING (JUST)

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Andy_with_a_screwdriver Gets stuck in Rover 75 Tourer CDTi Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Plymouth Posts: 692 Thanks: 141 Thanked 153 Times in 117 Posts	Just checked my bank and my payment was taken on 01/11 despite the mot expiring on 27/10. Also the customer I was working for at the time forgot that his MOT ran out in mid august and had been driving for over 2 months without it! My phone call to him reminded him to check his tax which had also expired, after which he found no MOT either. He stuck on the drive asap! Just shows there's not so many police about checking these things!

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