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Old 18th January 2021, 21:28   #1
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Default Coroner calls for review of Smart Motorways

An inquest heard that the deaths of two men could have been avoided.

The accident was on the M1 June 7th 2019. Coroner David Urpeth said Smart Motorways without a hard shoulder carry “an ongoing risk of future deaths”.

Sgt Mark Brady, who oversees major collision investigations for South Yorkshire Police told the hearing “Had there been a hard shoulder, had Jason and Alexandru pulled onto a hard shoulder, my opinion is that Mr Szuba would have driven clean past them.”

Let’s hope something comes of this tragedy.
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Old 18th January 2021, 21:59   #2
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Whoever thought up the Idea of "Smart Motorways" should be held culpable for the deaths of these people. As said "If there had been a hard shoulder the driver would have driven past them"
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Old 18th January 2021, 23:15   #3
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Smart motorways should be stopped immediately . The hard shoulder should be reinstated .
They are death by design.
The idea is fine but the camera systems at the moment are not effective coupled with the gantry systems are so far apart to warn of lane change restrictions .
Every time I use a ( smart motorway )
I reduce my speed . Look at my guages and take note of where the next safe lay-by is located .
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Old 19th January 2021, 08:05   #4
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If a driver stops a vehicle in any position on any road, it is the responsibility of every other driver to drive their vehicle safely and avoid it. If a lump of concrete were placed on a road and someone drove into it they would be in the wrong, why does it become the fault of someone not there if an accident occurs?

It is very sad that anybody loses their life or is injured or affected by loss and I personally think that the idea of "smart motorways" is stupidly ludicrous. The idea of this type of road layout is to accommodate the amount of traffic on the roads, but this introduces dangerous safety practices reliant on the abilities of all drivers, and those standards are lowering. When the inevitable accident occurs, though the onus is on the driver, someone else will be blamed. My own opinion.
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Old 19th January 2021, 08:15   #5
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Having recently driven on a smart motorway, and there is nothing smart about having no hard shoulder when your car suddenly loses power and speed reduced to a crawl.

It was fortunate there was a service area about two miles up the road, but travelling at a maximum speed of 45mph on a live motorway with no hard shoulder was a disaster waiting to happen

They should be reverted to design as soon as possible.

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18 months ago we were driving north on the newly 'smarted' M6 between Holmes Chapel and Knutsford. We were in lane three of four in medium level traffic doing about 70mph.

Suddenly I became aware of dust and smoke about 4 or 5 vehicles ahead in Lane 2 and at the same time the smell of burning rubber entered to car. A large white vehicle up ahead veered from Lane 2 to lane 1 and luckily made it there without hitting anything as HGV's took emergency avoiding action. As we passed the stricken motorhome I could see, out of the corner of my eye, that the offside rear tyre was shredded and flailing against the bodywork and already there were signs of smoke coming from the wheel arch. It was another three quarters of a mile to the next refuge.

Three days later we did the return trip and as we passed that refuge we saw a large burnt patch on the new tarmac, plus a big area of burnt grass. Checking on the local news website the driver had decided to drive on, in anticipation of a refuge appearing and not wanting to risk stopping and being smashed into. By the time he reached the refuge the rear of the motorhome was well alight and was burnt out in the refuge. Luckily the driver and his three passengers escaped unharmed but it must've been a close thing.
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Old 19th January 2021, 10:16   #7
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Having been in a car that broke down on a smart motorway I can say it is a scary experience. The car just died and as much as I could do it would not restart. I managed to get 2 wheels on the drainage channel but half of the car was still in the carriageway. Several vehicles including HGV's had to take avoiding action but luckily after 10 mins a Traffic Safety Officer arrived and towed us to the first pull in. Oddly the car restarted when the RAC arrived 30 mins later.

My wife was so upset she refuses to drive on a motorway now.
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Old 19th January 2021, 10:38   #8
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No motorway can be smart - they are inanimate objects, and lethal ones at that. A previous post of mine instanced that parts of the new A14 improvements are in areas where there is no phone coverage, including the ones provided at rescue areas, as confirmed by a Highways Officer I chatted to at Cambridge Services after I had a problem. Unbelievable!

In addition, modern cars simply pack up without warning, unlike older ones which used to give warnings over many miles and could generally soldier on until safety was reached.
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Old 19th January 2021, 11:21   #9
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I also have broken down on a smart motorway back in 2019. I have never been so frightened in my life. Hazards on but not able to re-start the car, Banana being the car. I finally managed to get out and over the barrier. Phoned the police and recovery. The Traffic Enforcement Agency were the first to arrive. The parked at an angle about 50 yards back. The passenger got out to make sure I was ok. He calmed me down and gave me a bottle of water to drink.

Then the police arrived and proceeded to block of the next lane across. Finally a recovery vehicle got to me and we was winched on board.
The amount of abuse the TEA and Police officers got from passing motorists was unbelievable. But they said it was the norm.
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Old 19th January 2021, 12:22   #10
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It is bad enough breaking down or having a puncture on an ordinary motorway, on a so called smart motorway it must be horrifying.

Having said that, they do appear to give small benefit (for now) due to the greater capacity but at what human cost?
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