Water Leak Advice - Page 13

clf · 25th July 2018, 18:28

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Blimey Alan, that makes a mockery of some of my own rants

Seriously though, you're right, you cannot base an entire theory on a case study of one car, while simultaneously dismissing collective experience of many cars of similar type.

Brian

lol Brian, I have been waiting until I got home from work to reply using the PC, hoping to be able to answer the arguments in sequence. Unfortunately it didnt work lol

kaiser · 25th July 2018, 19:00

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lol Brian, I have been waiting until I got home from work to reply using the PC, hoping to be able to answer the arguments in sequence. Unfortunately it didnt work lol

You can always edit, -----or wait for the moderator to do it for you!!

clf · 25th July 2018, 19:09

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You can always edit, -----or wait for the moderator to do it for you!!

I could, I tried a little,
but I have better things to do with my time at the minute

SD1too · 25th July 2018, 21:14

Goodness me, there’s no room for alternative opinions in some people’s world is there. It’s either accept what we say or be damned.

Simon

Sebastienclement · 25th July 2018, 21:19

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Originally Posted by SD1too

Goodness me, there’s no room for alternative opinions in some people’s world is there. It’s either accept what we say or be damned.

Simon

In my previous work role, I worked with a guy called Kevin. He was an absolute nightmare to work with and caused me no end of grief.

I have friends in other jobs who have worked with multitudes of people called Kevin - and they seem to have no problem.

My experience has taught me not to work with people called Kevin.

clf · 25th July 2018, 21:20

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Originally Posted by SD1too

Goodness me, there’s no room for alternative opinions in some people’s world is there. It’s either accept what we say or be damned.

Simon

lol, that is quite ironic really, but answering it, it will depend if your opinion contradicts 'fake news'

marinabrian · 25th July 2018, 21:23

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Originally Posted by SD1too

Goodness me, I have no room for alternative opinions in my world do I?. It’s either accept what we say or be damned.

Simon

I assume you are referring to yourself Simon

I am so looking forward to your explanation of the condition of the o rings fitted to a thermostat housing I removed from a MG ZR today

Brian

SD1too · 25th July 2018, 21:35

Brian; you have changed my quote using your own words whilst attributing it to me. I have reported you to the moderators. Your behaviour is not only childish but morally reprehensible.

Simon

clf · 25th July 2018, 22:15

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Originally Posted by SD1too

Brian; you have changed my quote using your own words whilst attributing it to me. I have reported you to the moderators. Your behaviour is not only childish but morally reprehensible.

Simon

Simon, why not have a little fun with it as revenge. I dont agree with it by the way, but what you have said is verifiable (click on the pink coloured arrow after the name in the quote

), and it's done now, so a bit of light hearted revenge?

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Originally Posted by marinabrian

mmmmmm an X-Power Grey TC with the coolant system filled with 100% OAT

Brian

marinabrian · 25th July 2018, 22:20

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Originally Posted by SD1too

Brian; you have changed my quote using your own words whilst attributing it to me. I have reported you to the moderators. Your behaviour is not only childish but morally reprehensible.

Simon

Morally reprehensible? it was intended as a joke Simon, even you should be able to see the funny side, or perhaps not

.........anyway prepare for another of my obviously alarmist, extreme photographs, not typical of anything you may have to say, but it does put a serious dent in your "Herbie clip" theory

Here we have a thermostat housing removed today from a 2004 MGZR which was scrapped following a rear end shunt.

The car had covered 89,000 miles at the time of it's demise.

I would ask that you compare the profile of the o ring fitted to an identical thermostat, secured in an identical fashion, for the purpose of a valid comparison.

I measured the outer diameter of the two o rings, in the case of the one in the upper picture it was 38.35mm and in the lower picture 38.99.

Not withstanding, it can be seen quite clearly that the o ring in the upper picture has flattened somewhat

So what we have here are two o rings which are the identical part to the ones fitted to the KV6 thermostat, the upper one is from a car filled from new with OAT antifreeze, and the lower one from my own car which has never had OAT in the cooling system.

The thing is, they should be in theory identical, as they've been installed and operated in almost identical environments, but they are not, so what are the differences in operating conditions? temperature? no, both thermostats were 88 celcius versions, method of which they are secured? no, both thermostats are bolted to the engine block with a single bolt which also secures the dipstick tube.

So that leaves us with another possibility, that the media the o ring has been in contact with for approximately the same period of time, if not mileage.

Well the o ring in the upper picture has been in contact with OAT for it's entire operating life, and the one in the lower picture has not.

I shall leave the readers if they've got this far to make up their minds as to which is the better preserved component, the one with 376,000 miles under it's belt, or the one with 278,000 miles less wear and tear

Brian

25th July 2018, 21:14	#124
SD1too Doesn't do things by halves Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur Auto (1999) Dealer launch model. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Former Middlesex Posts: 20,378 Thanks: 1,587 Thanked 3,749 Times in 3,181 Posts	Goodness me, there’s no room for alternative opinions in some people’s world is there. It’s either accept what we say or be damned. Simon __________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Sir Henry Royce.

25th July 2018, 21:35	#128
SD1too Doesn't do things by halves Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur Auto (1999) Dealer launch model. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Former Middlesex Posts: 20,378 Thanks: 1,587 Thanked 3,749 Times in 3,181 Posts	Brian; you have changed my quote using your own words whilst attributing it to me. I have reported you to the moderators. Your behaviour is not only childish but morally reprehensible. Simon __________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Sir Henry Royce.