One for the wheel connoisseurs

macafee2 · 12th September 2021, 10:13

Did the MK1 15 inch alloy have a cutout/slot where the wheel centre cap goes, just so the badges would all face the same way, providing of course the wheels were put on in the right place?

Were these the only wheels with a cutout/slot so the centre cap could only go
in one place?

macafee2

AndyN01 · 12th September 2021, 12:48

My 16" Unions have a cut out so the badge will only fit in one place.

Maybe it was a bit of attention to detail that they all had but was not appreciated?

BRG75 · 12th September 2021, 12:57

It's even more clever than that, the Rover emblem then points to the valve cap.

At least it certainly does on Crowns.

steve-45 · 12th September 2021, 13:19

The really clever centre caps are on some late model Rolls Royces that can rotate in their holders so they are always the correct way up when you park.

YHT · 12th September 2021, 16:32

Been playing with my 15 inchers today. Yes there is a slot that orientates the badge. It pushes out easily enough and fits again. Have a replacement for a space saver and had to take the badge out to get in on the hold down thread in the boot.

bl52krz · 12th September 2021, 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve-45

The really clever centre caps are on some late model Rolls Royces that can rotate in their holders so they are always the correct way up when you park.

I think, not 100% sure, but isn’t it Rolls Royce wheel caps that stay in one position even when driving the car.? In other words, they do not go round when the car moves?

trikey · 12th September 2021, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by bl52krz

I think, not 100% sure, but isn’t it Rolls Royce wheel caps that stay in one position even when driving the car.? In other words, they do not go round when the car moves?

Correct, they are weighted so they always display the logo the correct way.

macafee2 · 13th September 2021, 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by trikey

Correct, they are weighted so they always display the logo the correct way.

Is it just weight that keeps them still?

Think a Range Rover is big, the RR and Bentley "equivalent" make them look small.
You pull up with your brand new Kia to pony club, next person pulls up with their Land Rover, the next with their Range Rover and the last to arrive pulls up wit a Rolls Royce Cullinan, one upmanship at its best

macafee2

BRG75 · 13th September 2021, 07:22

I was unaware that RR have now designed their centre caps in this way, but then I’ve never been in a position to even consider buying one of their cars.

However, it’s made me think about whether it has any influence on the wheel balance.

If the caps rotate on needle rollers (it is RR, after all) and if they are then secured to the wheel itself, I feel that it probably does have some effect.

Should the caps however be mounted on a non-rotating part of the axle assembly, then (to my mind) logic says all will be well.

Would somebody with wheel balancing experience, perhaps elaborate please.

Regards

Mike

Mike Noc · 13th September 2021, 07:57

Can't see it making any difference to wheel balancing Mike as the caps aren't rotating so won't exert any out of balance forces.

12th September 2021, 10:13	#1
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,911 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	One for the wheel connoisseurs Did the MK1 15 inch alloy have a cutout/slot where the wheel centre cap goes, just so the badges would all face the same way, providing of course the wheels were put on in the right place? Were these the only wheels with a cutout/slot so the centre cap could only go in one place? macafee2

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AndyN01 This is my second home Toyota RAV4 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tamworth Posts: 3,069 Thanks: 2,478 Thanked 1,579 Times in 968 Posts	My 16" Unions have a cut out so the badge will only fit in one place. Maybe it was a bit of attention to detail that they all had but was not appreciated? __________________ Andy. http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/

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BRG75 Gets stuck in Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer, 9th & 10th Rovers Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Sevenoaks Posts: 973 Thanks: 670 Thanked 290 Times in 195 Posts	It's even more clever than that, the Rover emblem then points to the valve cap. At least it certainly does on Crowns. __________________ Presently 2004 75 CDTi auto Connoisseur Tourer - White Gold 2001 75 2.5 auto Connoisseur Saloon - White Gold Previously 2002 75 1.8 auto Club SE, 2000 75 1.8 auto Classic SE (Company Car) 1997 420 (Company Car) 1996 216 cabriolet, 198? 213 VDP 1986 SD1 V8 VDP, 1968 2000TC, 1966 2000.

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BRG75 Gets stuck in Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer, 9th & 10th Rovers Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Sevenoaks Posts: 973 Thanks: 670 Thanked 290 Times in 195 Posts	I was unaware that RR have now designed their centre caps in this way, but then I’ve never been in a position to even consider buying one of their cars. However, it’s made me think about whether it has any influence on the wheel balance. If the caps rotate on needle rollers (it is RR, after all) and if they are then secured to the wheel itself, I feel that it probably does have some effect. Should the caps however be mounted on a non-rotating part of the axle assembly, then (to my mind) logic says all will be well. Would somebody with wheel balancing experience, perhaps elaborate please. Regards Mike __________________ Presently 2004 75 CDTi auto Connoisseur Tourer - White Gold 2001 75 2.5 auto Connoisseur Saloon - White Gold Previously 2002 75 1.8 auto Club SE, 2000 75 1.8 auto Classic SE (Company Car) 1997 420 (Company Car) 1996 216 cabriolet, 198? 213 VDP 1986 SD1 V8 VDP, 1968 2000TC, 1966 2000.

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12th September 2021, 13:19	#4
steve-45 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon CDTi Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Belvedere Posts: 4,076 Thanks: 108 Thanked 1,089 Times in 774 Posts	The really clever centre caps are on some late model Rolls Royces that can rotate in their holders so they are always the correct way up when you park.

12th September 2021, 16:32	#5
YHT Loves to post Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: suffolk Posts: 259 Thanks: 46 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts	Been playing with my 15 inchers today. Yes there is a slot that orientates the badge. It pushes out easily enough and fits again. Have a replacement for a space saver and had to take the badge out to get in on the hold down thread in the boot.

13th September 2021, 07:57	#10
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,547 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	Can't see it making any difference to wheel balancing Mike as the caps aren't rotating so won't exert any out of balance forces.