Another one bites the dust

Ian G · 7th June 2018, 14:50

Bumped into a Rover owner that I've chatted with a few times in ALDI this afternoon (nice T plate damson 75 saloon with less than 70k that he has owned since it was a year old) asked how the car was going only to be told it had been scrapped. Oh dear says I what was wrong with it? Nothing came the reply but I got 3k scrappage on a new Hyundai that will probably last me for as long as I want to keep driving.
Apparently many cars that are Euro 1-2 or 3 emmissions are now being scrapped because the resale value is so low and some dealers will only accept Euro 4 or above as trade ins anything else goes to the scrappage scheme.

Cheers Ian

The Rovering Member · 7th June 2018, 15:12

If the London ULEZ extension comes in as is being planned then no 75 will be exempt from the daily charge. So expect a lot more to be scrapped in the coming years, especially if scrappage schemes are offered on new cars.

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s....php?p=2387078

Avulon · 7th June 2018, 15:24

Paint me sceptical on the dealer 'scrappage' scheme - check the status of the vehicle in a couple of months time by registration - I won't be unsurpised if 'scrappage' = trade-in and the 75 has been sold on to a new owner.

macafee2 · 7th June 2018, 17:47

I got the impression from a car dealer this week that cars had to be scrapped if taken via the scrapage scheme, is this not true?

macafee2

Nantwich 75 · 7th June 2018, 17:53

I think that was just for the HMG scheme.

Ian G · 7th June 2018, 18:27

Just had a look at Hyundai's web page and this is what they say re scrappage..

"Hyundai Scrappage and Emission Reduction Scheme
We’re taking older less efficient cars off the road while making a new Hyundai even more affordable. If you own a car which was registered before 1st January 2011, you could trade it in and save between £1,500 and £5,000 off a new Hyundai*. Including £2,000 off our innovative IONIQ Hybrid model.

How does it work?
Your car will be eligible if it was registered before 1st January 2011 and you have owned it for more than 90 days. The most polluting cars, those with Euro 1-3 emissions standard, will be scrapped and completely removed from UK roads, those that are Euro 4-5 can be traded in."

Cheers Ian

zedhed · 7th June 2018, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian G

Just had a look at Hyundai's web page and this is what they say re scrappage..

"Hyundai Scrappage and Emission Reduction Scheme
We’re taking older less efficient cars off the road while making a new Hyundai even more affordable. If you own a car which was registered before 1st January 2011, you could trade it in and save between £1,500 and £5,000 off a new Hyundai*. Including £2,000 off our innovative IONIQ Hybrid model.

How does it work?
Your car will be eligible if it was registered before 1st January 2011 and you have owned it for more than 90 days. The most polluting cars, those with Euro 1-3 emissions standard, will be scrapped and completely removed from UK roads, those that are Euro 4-5 can be traded in."

Cheers Ian

Load of b******s.they have already put the price on the new car before hand anyway.

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Mickyboy · 7th June 2018, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian G

Just had a look at Hyundai's web page and this is what they say re scrappage..

"Hyundai Scrappage and Emission Reduction Scheme
We’re taking older less efficient cars off the road while making a new Hyundai even more affordable. If you own a car which was registered before 1st January 2011, you could trade it in and save between £1,500 and £5,000 off a new Hyundai*. Including £2,000 off our innovative IONIQ Hybrid model.

How does it work?
Your car will be eligible if it was registered before 1st January 2011 and you have owned it for more than 90 days. The most polluting cars, those with Euro 1-3 emissions standard, will be scrapped and completely removed from UK roads, those that are Euro 4-5 can be traded in."

Cheers Ian

This type of scheme will destroy our used spares supplies I’m afraid, my accountant has already had her say, and told me off for keep buying in MG Rovers, safe to say I told her that when accountants get involved, things go wrong, I do however understand her point that scappage schemes will be favourarable to some owners and hence less 75 & ZT owners

Such a shame, and I say that as a enthusiast not a trader.
Mick

coolguy · 7th June 2018, 20:33

I have never understood why people are stupid enough to pay thousands extra to update any car for more economy - the economics simply do not justify it, and just think of all the energy and materials going into producing the new vehicle. Green, my foot!

victorgte · 7th June 2018, 20:49

There is no scrappage scheme being offered by any manufacturer or dealership. They are simply giving the same discount on the list price that you would get anyway without a car to part ex.
If the Government steps in anytime soon with another scrappage scheme, no doubt the list prices will all suddenly rise.
I agree, nice cars will suddenly reappear on the road with new owners.
I put car dealers and estate agents in the same bucket of muck. The list is longer but I’ll keep that to myself.

7th June 2018, 14:50	#1
Ian G This is my second home Small Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Land of the Eel Posts: 6,315 Thanks: 2,328 Thanked 2,991 Times in 1,431 Posts	Another one bites the dust Bumped into a Rover owner that I've chatted with a few times in ALDI this afternoon (nice T plate damson 75 saloon with less than 70k that he has owned since it was a year old) asked how the car was going only to be told it had been scrapped. Oh dear says I what was wrong with it? Nothing came the reply but I got 3k scrappage on a new Hyundai that will probably last me for as long as I want to keep driving. Apparently many cars that are Euro 1-2 or 3 emmissions are now being scrapped because the resale value is so low and some dealers will only accept Euro 4 or above as trade ins anything else goes to the scrappage scheme. Cheers Ian Last edited by Ian G; 7th June 2018 at 14:53..

7th June 2018, 15:12	#2
The Rovering Member I really should get out more....... Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: London Posts: 2,955 Thanks: 263 Thanked 538 Times in 431 Posts	If the London ULEZ extension comes in as is being planned then no 75 will be exempt from the daily charge. So expect a lot more to be scrapped in the coming years, especially if scrappage schemes are offered on new cars. https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s....php?p=2387078 __________________ Reducing the size of my Rover fleet by adding a 75 to it.

7th June 2018, 15:24	#3
Avulon This is my second home 1.8t Tourer Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tanelorn Posts: 4,830 Thanks: 956 Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts	Paint me sceptical on the dealer 'scrappage' scheme - check the status of the vehicle in a couple of months time by registration - I won't be unsurpised if 'scrappage' = trade-in and the 75 has been sold on to a new owner. __________________ Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk) Where?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn Mods/Retrofits: PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors To do: puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button

7th June 2018, 20:49	#10
victorgte I really should get out more....... MGTF, MGZT, Range Rover Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 2,803 Thanks: 395 Thanked 633 Times in 446 Posts	There is no scrappage scheme being offered by any manufacturer or dealership. They are simply giving the same discount on the list price that you would get anyway without a car to part ex. If the Government steps in anytime soon with another scrappage scheme, no doubt the list prices will all suddenly rise. I agree, nice cars will suddenly reappear on the road with new owners. I put car dealers and estate agents in the same bucket of muck. The list is longer but I’ll keep that to myself. __________________ MG TF 135, MG ZT, Range Rover P38

7th June 2018, 17:47	#4
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,926 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	I got the impression from a car dealer this week that cars had to be scrapped if taken via the scrapage scheme, is this not true? macafee2

7th June 2018, 17:53	#5
Nantwich 75 Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Nantwich Posts: 269 Thanks: 102 Thanked 31 Times in 23 Posts	I think that was just for the HMG scheme.

7th June 2018, 18:27	#6
Ian G This is my second home Small Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Land of the Eel Posts: 6,315 Thanks: 2,328 Thanked 2,991 Times in 1,431 Posts	Just had a look at Hyundai's web page and this is what they say re scrappage.. "Hyundai Scrappage and Emission Reduction Scheme We’re taking older less efficient cars off the road while making a new Hyundai even more affordable. If you own a car which was registered before 1st January 2011, you could trade it in and save between £1,500 and £5,000 off a new Hyundai*. Including £2,000 off our innovative IONIQ Hybrid model. How does it work? Your car will be eligible if it was registered before 1st January 2011 and you have owned it for more than 90 days. The most polluting cars, those with Euro 1-3 emissions standard, will be scrapped and completely removed from UK roads, those that are Euro 4-5 can be traded in." Cheers Ian

7th June 2018, 20:33	#9
coolguy Coolguy Rover 75 CDT Tourer Auto, Rover 75 2.0 Connoisseur Auto, MG ZT 2.5 Auto and MG ZT Cdti Auto (Monogra Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Finedon Posts: 1,897 Thanks: 933 Thanked 638 Times in 430 Posts	I have never understood why people are stupid enough to pay thousands extra to update any car for more economy - the economics simply do not justify it, and just think of all the energy and materials going into producing the new vehicle. Green, my foot!