Suspected HGF

whyte850 · 15th January 2019, 10:49

Hi folks,

I went to start my Rover 75 2.0 L V6 this morning as I do monthly since taking it off the road at the start of winter. It was running for around 10 minutes and then steam from the exhaust started to emit. I checked the coolant once it had cooled down and there was none. I do regular checks and could see none on the garage floor and all clips and hoses looked to be visually ok. I am a bit out of touch with what it costs to put right but I know it won’t be cheap. It’s such a great car that’s had an easy life and wanted for nothing it’s only done 69 thousand miles, just last year I had the cambelts and water pump done as well.

Ross

Dallas · 15th January 2019, 11:50

Its not often 2.0V6 engines suffer HGF, its more than likely the plastic thermostat or pipes at fault.

Was the car losing water before taking it off the road after having the cambelts and water pump done last year?

Can you check the top of the engine for water/coolant laying in the V, take of the black plastic engine cover (2x bolts) and peer down into the top of the engine, you may see water laying in the 'V' which will indicate a leaking thermostat.

Water pumps can leak slowly if not fitted correctly, sometimes its hard to see any water leaking if its minimal water being lost over a long period of time.

Simondi · 15th January 2019, 11:53

It's also worth checking the lower coolant pipe at the front of engine.

whyte850 · 15th January 2019, 12:18

Thanks folks, I may add that there isn’t any mayo like substance on the cap that I could see either. One of the members, Duncan from CDL Autotec is going to have a look at it next week for me.

Simondi · 15th January 2019, 13:39

Top man is Cossie dunc

trikey · 15th January 2019, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by whyte850

Thanks folks, I may add that there isn’t any mayo like substance on the cap that I could see either. One of the members, Duncan from CDL Autotec is going to have a look at it next week for me.

It’ll all be ok with Duncan on the case.

Sebastienclement · 15th January 2019, 14:56

We have a 2.0v6 tourer in the family that has been boiled up several times due to insufficient coolant - temps of up to 120'c. Water loss was due to a poorly radiator & oil cooler.

We got all the symptoms of HGF, but once the cooling system was sorted out its running absolutely fine.

If your car has been cossetted I really doubt there's anything wrong with the head gasket.

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whyte850 · 15th January 2019, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastienclement

We have a 2.0v6 tourer in the family that has been boiled up several times due to insufficient coolant - temps of up to 120'c. Water loss was due to a poorly radiator & oil cooler.

We got all the symptoms of HGF, but once the cooling system was sorted out its running absolutely fine.

If your car has been cossetted I really doubt there's anything wrong with the head gasket.

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Let’s hope so. I’ve done over 250 thousand miles in K-Series cars and not had it yet.

SD1too · 15th January 2019, 19:02

What a splendid P4 you have Ross.

Simon

whyte850 · 15th January 2019, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too

What a splendid P4 you have Ross.

Simon

Thanks Simon, I’ve had a lot of work done on her recently.

15th January 2019, 10:49	#1
whyte850 Avid contributor 2001 Rover 75 Connoisser SE 2.0 L V6 Auto and 1950 Rover P4 75 Cyclops Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bo`ness Posts: 213 Thanks: 2 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Suspected HGF Hi folks, I went to start my Rover 75 2.0 L V6 this morning as I do monthly since taking it off the road at the start of winter. It was running for around 10 minutes and then steam from the exhaust started to emit. I checked the coolant once it had cooled down and there was none. I do regular checks and could see none on the garage floor and all clips and hoses looked to be visually ok. I am a bit out of touch with what it costs to put right but I know it won’t be cheap. It’s such a great car that’s had an easy life and wanted for nothing it’s only done 69 thousand miles, just last year I had the cambelts and water pump done as well. Ross __________________ Current Fleet 2020: 2019 Seat Mii Design 2001 Rover 75 Connoisseur SE 2.0 V6 2006 Renault Twingo MK1 LHD 1971 Fiat 850 Sport Coupe (Restoration project)

15th January 2019, 11:53	#3
Simondi Regional Secretary MGTF, MG ZS EV Exclusive Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kilwinning Posts: 14,046 Thanks: 1,460 Thanked 3,563 Times in 1,857 Posts	It's also worth checking the lower coolant pipe at the front of engine. __________________ Simondi FAQ How do you do that? Club Flyers Looking for a car seen in a film or on TV? Fancy a change in colour or wheels - paint configurator OBD - Trip Meter Ultimate Buyers Guide Post YouTube videos

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whyte850 Avid contributor 2001 Rover 75 Connoisser SE 2.0 L V6 Auto and 1950 Rover P4 75 Cyclops Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bo`ness Posts: 213 Thanks: 2 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks folks, I may add that there isn’t any mayo like substance on the cap that I could see either. One of the members, Duncan from CDL Autotec is going to have a look at it next week for me. __________________ Current Fleet 2020: 2019 Seat Mii Design 2001 Rover 75 Connoisseur SE 2.0 V6 2006 Renault Twingo MK1 LHD 1971 Fiat 850 Sport Coupe (Restoration project)

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SD1too Doesn't do things by halves Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur Auto (1999) Dealer launch model. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Former Middlesex Posts: 20,344 Thanks: 1,587 Thanked 3,749 Times in 3,181 Posts	What a splendid P4 you have Ross. Simon __________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Sir Henry Royce.

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Dallas This is my second home 1979 Capri 1.6L, 1982 Capri 1.6L, 2016 Dacia Stepway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 8,595 Thanks: 3,496 Thanked 3,397 Times in 2,218 Posts	Its not often 2.0V6 engines suffer HGF, its more than likely the plastic thermostat or pipes at fault. Was the car losing water before taking it off the road after having the cambelts and water pump done last year? Can you check the top of the engine for water/coolant laying in the V, take of the black plastic engine cover (2x bolts) and peer down into the top of the engine, you may see water laying in the 'V' which will indicate a leaking thermostat. Water pumps can leak slowly if not fitted correctly, sometimes its hard to see any water leaking if its minimal water being lost over a long period of time.

15th January 2019, 14:56	#7
Sebastienclement Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 136 Thanked 160 Times in 85 Posts	We have a 2.0v6 tourer in the family that has been boiled up several times due to insufficient coolant - temps of up to 120'c. Water loss was due to a poorly radiator & oil cooler. We got all the symptoms of HGF, but once the cooling system was sorted out its running absolutely fine. If your car has been cossetted I really doubt there's anything wrong with the head gasket. Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk