Being Prosecuted - Page 12

steve-45 · 15th September 2017, 15:18

I've just run over the lawn mower power cable - by accident !

Should I now expect to receive a summons for "criminal damage" or driving a lawn mower without due care and attention ?

clf · 15th September 2017, 16:29

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Originally Posted by steve-45

I've just run over the lawn mower power cable - by accident !

Should I now expect to receive a summons for "criminal damage" or driving a lawn mower without due care and attention ?

no, but you could be charged with willful destruction of private property. It doesnt matter that it is your private property, you damaged it.

This is baffling in the whole. I know the OP has settled for the quiet life (I can appreciate that, and probably would have given it serious consideration myself). It just seems like the police are taking this action on the premise, that if someone can damage their own property, there is the possibility to damage someone else's

and now since the paperwork has started, then the only way for it to be completed without negative consequences to the force's figures (ie shift the blame) is to either progress through the courts or hope that the accused takes the awareness course. Either way, on paper, the police can say they have done their job.

mh007 · 15th September 2017, 16:37

I would certainly pursue this & not just bow down!!

David Lawrence · 15th September 2017, 17:20

Perhaps we should offer to contribute to the OP's fine in the event he went to court and lost.

we all seem pretty sure he will get off, so the only way we will find out is if he goes to court. Maybe someone who knows how to do it should start a poll. Guilty or not guilty.

To me it is nonsense to go on a speed awareness course when they are prosecuting for driving off a ramp......backwards. How much of a speed awareness course actually takes place in reverse? Or up a ramp?

MSS · 15th September 2017, 17:34

Be positive chaps - there is nothing to say that the OP will not benefit from a speed alertness (not awareness - thanks to DerekS for highlighting) course. I think most would.

Learning something good for the wrong reason is far better than not learning.

DerekS · 15th September 2017, 17:43

Speed AWARENESS course, £90

Speed ALERTNESS course £185

In Suffolk . Just to obviate the confusion.

I suppose, that like most people, I was not aware of the two different courses .
Must be more alert . ( see what I did then ? )

thundercat · 15th September 2017, 18:58

Oh dear it all gone wrong, I requested a copy of the police report, they did not like that one little bit and have now withdrawn the option of the course and it looks like they have changed the wording on the summons, so now it looks like I shall have to go to court and argue my case

smallheathlad · 15th September 2017, 19:10

See a solicitor, from the information you have shared this will not look good for the police or CPS! With involvement of your solicitor this case will be stopped.

thundercat · 15th September 2017, 19:32

News Flash, just got home to find another E mail and it says "I have assessed the evidence fully and although a momentary laps in concentration is made out warranting an element of carelessness, this matter is best suited for for the insurance companies to deal with through civil proceedings". So, what does this mean then, court or no court

monty1 · 15th September 2017, 19:42

seems to me plod NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- up and are saying its a civil matter, after reading this thread it shows the ineptitude of the police and cps

15th September 2017, 17:34	#115
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15th September 2017, 15:18	#111
steve-45 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon CDTi Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Belvedere Posts: 4,076 Thanks: 108 Thanked 1,089 Times in 774 Posts	I've just run over the lawn mower power cable - by accident ! Should I now expect to receive a summons for "criminal damage" or driving a lawn mower without due care and attention ?

15th September 2017, 16:37	#113
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15th September 2017, 17:20	#114
David Lawrence This is my second home Rover 75 CDT-2001 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wrexham, North Wales Posts: 3,606 Thanks: 195 Thanked 606 Times in 501 Posts	Perhaps we should offer to contribute to the OP's fine in the event he went to court and lost. we all seem pretty sure he will get off, so the only way we will find out is if he goes to court. Maybe someone who knows how to do it should start a poll. Guilty or not guilty. To me it is nonsense to go on a speed awareness course when they are prosecuting for driving off a ramp......backwards. How much of a speed awareness course actually takes place in reverse? Or up a ramp?

15th September 2017, 17:43	#116
DerekS Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Malpas Posts: 1,526 Thanks: 34 Thanked 118 Times in 89 Posts	Speed AWARENESS course, £90 Speed ALERTNESS course £185 In Suffolk . Just to obviate the confusion. I suppose, that like most people, I was not aware of the two different courses . Must be more alert . ( see what I did then ? )

15th September 2017, 18:58	#117
thundercat Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Club SE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: saxmundham Posts: 1,438 Thanks: 289 Thanked 173 Times in 121 Posts	Oh dear it all gone wrong, I requested a copy of the police report, they did not like that one little bit and have now withdrawn the option of the course and it looks like they have changed the wording on the summons, so now it looks like I shall have to go to court and argue my case

15th September 2017, 19:10	#118
smallheathlad Loves to post No more aRover 75 Saloon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Widnes Posts: 252 Thanks: 81 Thanked 39 Times in 35 Posts	See a solicitor, from the information you have shared this will not look good for the police or CPS! With involvement of your solicitor this case will be stopped.

15th September 2017, 19:32	#119
thundercat Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Club SE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: saxmundham Posts: 1,438 Thanks: 289 Thanked 173 Times in 121 Posts	News Flash, just got home to find another E mail and it says "I have assessed the evidence fully and although a momentary laps in concentration is made out warranting an element of carelessness, this matter is best suited for for the insurance companies to deal with through civil proceedings". So, what does this mean then, court or no court