HAND BRAKE.....hopeless - Page 4

madeupname · 22nd December 2018, 11:36

Hello, I am experiencing a similar problem, but my question is a bit different.
the top adjuster on the shoes is supposed to be self adjusting. However, when I looked at youtube vids, there was a piece of metal that the cog 'clicks' on. I haven't seen this on our handbrake system. So, how do they self adjust exactly?
Thank you

StewartIngram · 22nd December 2018, 12:02

As a long term user of the modified compensator, I need to change it on the new Connie I've just bought. Previously, it has been a somewhat torturous job accessing it from inside the car. Does anyone have the links to previous threads on here showing how it was done?

madeupname · 22nd December 2018, 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by StewartIngram

As a long term user of the modified compensator, I need to change it on the new Connie I've just bought. Previously, it has been a somewhat torturous job accessing it from inside the car. Does anyone have the links to previous threads on here showing how it was done?

hope this works for you.

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...ht=compensator

roverbarmy · 22nd December 2018, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by madeupname

Hello, I am experiencing a similar problem, but my question is a bit different.
the top adjuster on the shoes is supposed to be self adjusting. However, when I looked at youtube vids, there was a piece of metal that the cog 'clicks' on. I haven't seen this on our handbrake system. So, how do they self adjust exactly?
Thank you

Most self adjusters have a link to the handbrake which has a "V" which slots into the serrations on the adjuster nut. As the handbrake linkage moves, it pushes the "V" against the serrations, adjusting the nut. These often wear away and the adjuster stops working. Have to say, I never noticed one on the last one I did, so they may not have one on the 75 as the brake is for the handbrake only.
No sign of one on the pics here:-
https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...ad.php?t=23845

madeupname · 22nd December 2018, 16:30

Thanks Mike. Looks like on ours the 'self' adjusting means 'adjust it yourself'

Avulon · 22nd December 2018, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by madeupname

Hello, I am experiencing a similar problem, but my question is a bit different.
the top adjuster on the shoes is supposed to be self adjusting. However, when I looked at youtube vids, there was a piece of metal that the cog 'clicks' on. I haven't seen this on our handbrake system. So, how do they self adjust exactly?
Thank you

No, not self-adjusting - never has been on the 75/zt

COLVERT · 22nd December 2018, 18:01

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Originally Posted by madeupname

Thanks Mike. Looks like on ours the 'self' adjusting means 'adjust it yourself'

Got it in one.--

As the shoes don't wear away in use after the first adjustment they should stay permanently adjusted.

patrolman pete · 25th December 2018, 21:35

The fix for a poor handbrake is too not use after market brake shoes. I tried two sets and couldn't get the brakes to grip. Jules advised only fit the genuine TRW shoes. The handbrake is now fantastic and holds without having to force the handbrake lever and it has a bit of 'spring' in it's action where before it just felt hard.

PS I've had the modified compensator for years and the handbrake hardly ever needs adjusting now.

Heddy · 25th December 2018, 21:52

You may have something there Pete, I could never fix the h/brake on my last car (75 Mk1) It always felt solid, no 'spring' as you call it. I was told it had Pagid shoes, a make I never rated. Always felt the friction material needed to be softer.

HarryM1BYT · 25th December 2018, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by madeupname

Hello, I am experiencing a similar problem, but my question is a bit different.
the top adjuster on the shoes is supposed to be self adjusting. However, when I looked at youtube vids, there was a piece of metal that the cog 'clicks' on. I haven't seen this on our handbrake system. So, how do they self adjust exactly?
Thank you

They do NOT self adjust, they do not really need to there is very little wear occurs to need adjustment. Auto-adjustment you will find on cars, is where the car uses drum brakes for the footbrake. The 75's drum and shoes are only used for the handbrake a disk is used by the footbrake.

The cog clicks against the spring which retracts the shoes, when the handbrake is released. There is a (too small) hole in the drum, through which you gain access to the adjuster.

22nd December 2018, 11:36	#31
madeupname Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connie Mk2 1.8 (Mo) Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,531 Thanks: 875 Thanked 335 Times in 289 Posts	Hello, I am experiencing a similar problem, but my question is a bit different. the top adjuster on the shoes is supposed to be self adjusting. However, when I looked at youtube vids, there was a piece of metal that the cog 'clicks' on. I haven't seen this on our handbrake system. So, how do they self adjust exactly? Thank you __________________ Mo was born Tuesday, 22nd June 2004 @ 08:32:41 This vehicle was the 99,307th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 5,377th 75 1.8 Connoisseur to be made out of 6,033 This vehicle was the 783rd 75 in Firefrost Red (code: CEV) to be made out of 2,089 Firefrost Red 75s

22nd December 2018, 16:30	#35
madeupname Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Connie Mk2 1.8 (Mo) Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Sheffield Posts: 1,531 Thanks: 875 Thanked 335 Times in 289 Posts	Thanks Mike. Looks like on ours the 'self' adjusting means 'adjust it yourself' __________________ Mo was born Tuesday, 22nd June 2004 @ 08:32:41 This vehicle was the 99,307th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 5,377th 75 1.8 Connoisseur to be made out of 6,033 This vehicle was the 783rd 75 in Firefrost Red (code: CEV) to be made out of 2,089 Firefrost Red 75s

22nd December 2018, 12:02	#32
StewartIngram Gets stuck in Rover 75 Connoisseur 2.5 V6 auto Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire Posts: 902 Thanks: 320 Thanked 159 Times in 127 Posts	As a long term user of the modified compensator, I need to change it on the new Connie I've just bought. Previously, it has been a somewhat torturous job accessing it from inside the car. Does anyone have the links to previous threads on here showing how it was done?

25th December 2018, 21:35	#38
patrolman pete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 club se tourer CDT and a Connoisseur SE Diesel Auto Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houghton - le - Spring Posts: 1,418 Thanks: 618 Thanked 333 Times in 197 Posts	The fix for a poor handbrake is too not use after market brake shoes. I tried two sets and couldn't get the brakes to grip. Jules advised only fit the genuine TRW shoes. The handbrake is now fantastic and holds without having to force the handbrake lever and it has a bit of 'spring' in it's action where before it just felt hard. PS I've had the modified compensator for years and the handbrake hardly ever needs adjusting now.

25th December 2018, 21:52	#39
Heddy This is my second home None Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: None Posts: 5,556 Thanks: 465 Thanked 1,161 Times in 924 Posts	You may have something there Pete, I could never fix the h/brake on my last car (75 Mk1) It always felt solid, no 'spring' as you call it. I was told it had Pagid shoes, a make I never rated. Always felt the friction material needed to be softer.