Another thing fixed

macafee2 · 19th December 2018, 09:04

After last winter the water to the garage was turned on and the next day I found the garage flooded.

Not having the space to work in the garage due to the Tourer being in there the water was turned off, floor dried and things left.

Yesterday I got round to fixing it. I assume an olive was not tight enough, water had frozen and the ice expanded. This forced the pipe to move partly out of the fitting and half the olive to slip off the end of the pipe.

Not risking the same pipe again I've used two new bits of pipe and a solder 90 degree fitting. Seemed water tight last night.

Took advantage and all the stuff that's piled up this year that needed washing was washed. Not the sort of stuff to wash in the kitchen sink, not if I want to live anyway

macafee2

WillyHeckaslike · 19th December 2018, 13:26

I can manage a soldering iron for electrics but learning to solder plumbing joints is something that I would really like to do. I've thought for a while that it would be useful to have the skill to maybe have a go at making the occasional bespoke part for a car's cooling system ... metal T-piece etc..

Devilish · 19th December 2018, 22:05

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Originally Posted by macafee2

Not the sort of stuff to wash in the kitchen sink, not if I want to live anyway

Pfft. Chicken.

If I want to wash car bits in the sink, I'll WASH CAR BITS IN THE SINK.
If I want to de coke a FBH in the sink, I WILL DE COKE A FBH IN THE SINK.
If I want to get diesel in the sink, I WILL GET DIESEL IN THE SINK.

COLVERT · 29th December 2018, 17:30

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Originally Posted by WillyHeckaslike

I can manage a soldering iron for electrics but learning to solder plumbing joints is something that I would really like to do. I've thought for a while that it would be useful to have the skill to maybe have a go at making the occasional bespoke part for a car's cooling system ... metal T-piece etc..

Willy. It only takes a little bit of practice to get it right.

I have, over the years, installed quite a few central heating systems.

You can get a few copper fittings and a piece of copper pipe to practice on. You can take any joints you have made by heating them up and taking them apart to then try re-soldering them again.

( Wear gloves. Lol. ) and a small pair of pliers is handy for dismantling.-

WillyHeckaslike · 29th December 2018, 19:47

Never really done much plumbing work but come the new year I will be attempting to clean out our central heating system. I don't think that it was ever commissioned properly from the off and the plumber who fitted it was called back a couple of times in its early days because of the system pressure dropping. Gave up on him eventually and just kept on topping up the system via the filling loop as he showed us but it got worse over the years. It stopped working altogether a few months back after much complaining from the pump about the sludge that was building up within the system lol.

trikey · 29th December 2018, 20:10

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Originally Posted by Devilish

Pfft. Chicken.

If I want to wash car bits in the sink, I'll WASH CAR BITS IN THE SINK.
If I want to de coke a FBH in the sink, I WILL DE COKE A FBH IN THE SINK.
If I want to get diesel in the sink, I WILL GET DIESEL IN THE SINK.

Deb says its ok, it all cleans up

COLVERT · 29th December 2018, 20:16

[QUOTE=WillyHeckaslike;2698033]Never really done much plumbing work but come the new year I will be attempting to clean out our central heating system. I don't think that it was ever commissioned properly from the off and the plumber who fitted it was called back a couple of times in its early days because of the system pressure dropping. Gave up on him eventually and just kept on topping up the system via the filling loop as he showed us but it got worse over the years. It stopped working altogether a few months back after much complaining from the pump about the sludge that was building up within the system lol.

[/QUOTE

What the system has to have, just like our cars, is an anti-freeze anti- corrosion additive.---Then, virtually no corrosion or sludge.

You plumber must have made some poor, dry, joints. A quantity of FLUX is absolutely essential when soldering the connections. It vastly reduces the surface tension of the lead solder and allows surface tension to completely fill the joints with lead.

Leaks come from poor joints made with not enough flux. Water can then leach through in dry areas where the solder has not taken.

HarryM1BYT · 29th December 2018, 20:17

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Originally Posted by WillyHeckaslike

I can manage a soldering iron for electrics but learning to solder plumbing joints is something that I would really like to do. I've thought for a while that it would be useful to have the skill to maybe have a go at making the occasional bespoke part for a car's cooling system ... metal T-piece etc..

Copper pipe soldering, with the right tools, is actually easier than electrical/ electronic soldering.

COLVERT · 29th December 2018, 20:19

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Originally Posted by macafee2

After last winter the water to the garage was turned on and the next day I found the garage flooded.

Not having the space to work in the garage due to the Tourer being in there the water was turned off, floor dried and things left.

Yesterday I got round to fixing it. I assume an olive was not tight enough, water had frozen and the ice expanded. This forced the pipe to move partly out of the fitting and half the olive to slip off the end of the pipe.

Not risking the same pipe again I've used two new bits of pipe and a solder 90 degree fitting. Seemed water tight last night.

Took advantage and all the stuff that's piled up this year that needed washing was washed. Not the sort of stuff to wash in the kitchen sink, not if I want to live anyway

macafee2

In your case it was better that the joints came apart. If they hadn't then the pipes themselves would have split leaving you with a much harder problem to solve.---

Les4048 · 29th December 2018, 20:20

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Originally Posted by trikey

Deb says its ok, it all cleans up

Carole is of the same attitude

19th December 2018, 09:04	#1
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,912 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	Another thing fixed After last winter the water to the garage was turned on and the next day I found the garage flooded. Not having the space to work in the garage due to the Tourer being in there the water was turned off, floor dried and things left. Yesterday I got round to fixing it. I assume an olive was not tight enough, water had frozen and the ice expanded. This forced the pipe to move partly out of the fitting and half the olive to slip off the end of the pipe. Not risking the same pipe again I've used two new bits of pipe and a solder 90 degree fitting. Seemed water tight last night. Took advantage and all the stuff that's piled up this year that needed washing was washed. Not the sort of stuff to wash in the kitchen sink, not if I want to live anyway macafee2

19th December 2018, 13:26	#2
WillyHeckaslike This is my second home Rovers 75 & 25 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wearside Posts: 4,520 Thanks: 543 Thanked 709 Times in 511 Posts	I can manage a soldering iron for electrics but learning to solder plumbing joints is something that I would really like to do. I've thought for a while that it would be useful to have the skill to maybe have a go at making the occasional bespoke part for a car's cooling system ... metal T-piece etc..

29th December 2018, 19:47	#5
WillyHeckaslike This is my second home Rovers 75 & 25 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wearside Posts: 4,520 Thanks: 543 Thanked 709 Times in 511 Posts	Never really done much plumbing work but come the new year I will be attempting to clean out our central heating system. I don't think that it was ever commissioned properly from the off and the plumber who fitted it was called back a couple of times in its early days because of the system pressure dropping. Gave up on him eventually and just kept on topping up the system via the filling loop as he showed us but it got worse over the years. It stopped working altogether a few months back after much complaining from the pump about the sludge that was building up within the system lol.

29th December 2018, 20:16	#7
COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	[QUOTE=WillyHeckaslike;2698033]Never really done much plumbing work but come the new year I will be attempting to clean out our central heating system. I don't think that it was ever commissioned properly from the off and the plumber who fitted it was called back a couple of times in its early days because of the system pressure dropping. Gave up on him eventually and just kept on topping up the system via the filling loop as he showed us but it got worse over the years. It stopped working altogether a few months back after much complaining from the pump about the sludge that was building up within the system lol. [/QUOTE What the system has to have, just like our cars, is an anti-freeze anti- corrosion additive.---Then, virtually no corrosion or sludge. You plumber must have made some poor, dry, joints. A quantity of FLUX is absolutely essential when soldering the connections. It vastly reduces the surface tension of the lead solder and allows surface tension to completely fill the joints with lead. Leaks come from poor joints made with not enough flux. Water can then leach through in dry areas where the solder has not taken.