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Old 1st November 2006, 13:32   #1
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Default A Supplier for Hi-Line nav retrofit cables

A Supplier for Hi-Line Nav cabling Looms, they will custom make them if required to suit the hardware being installed, different Radio no TV etc.

http://www.kufatec.de/

actual link here
http://shop.kufatec.de/product_info....t.html/cat/126

Once we have a decent How to this info will be added to that

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Old 30th November 2006, 19:49   #2
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Second you will need this cable:



So you can fit the wiring loom to the ISO connection of the original radio/speakers etc.

Most important of all: you will have to know where the I-Bus (or K-Bus) connection is of your car. The cable is behind the original radio, it's a white/red cable with yellow stripes on it (Thanks to Keith )
Just connect this cable with the iso adapter, I thought it was pin 17 of the connector (Keith, correct me if I am wrong. I wrote it down on my work, I'm at home right now)

I recently succesfully retrofitted sat/nav in my R75. I can recommend Kufatec to everyone. You just can order the wiring loom how you wan't it. I ordered it with:

Monitor
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I replaced my CD changer with one from BMW, cause the wiring loom was prepared for that. That because the connection of a Rover CD changer is different.
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Old 3rd December 2006, 20:20   #3
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Arjan do you have a suppier link for that Adapter as that is BMW Female to ISO Male

Most I have seen e.g the PC2-05-4 are BMW Male to ISO female so no good for Nav retrofits when being done in later cars
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I just went to a car-audio shop, and they could order it for me.

I had to make one extra connection for the K-Bus, that wasn't in the adapter
But it is functioning great.
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Thanks, I have found one on Ebay which will do but I want to establish a proper supplier as Ebay is unreliable, for my Howto

In my car I have the two ISO connectors these only carry speaker and power etc but the other signals K bus, wheel sensors, reverse signal, and steering controls, and the pink/Black wire for traffic master are all on a separate small flat black six pin plug except for traffic master I assume you connected those up as well?
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K-Bus is another signal, the red/white cable with yellow stripes

Reverse Signal: I just took the cable direct of the reverse-light. Could be done easier of course in the lightmodule in the front, but I didn't know where to find that.

What do you mean with Taffice master? If you mean TMC, that depends of the radiomodule. The professional BM24 of BMW and the BMW 24 original Rover has TMC. Nothing has to be connected.

The wheels sensors are the Speed Signal, this you can find on the back of your "dashboard-clocks" (You hopefully know what I mean, behind the steeringwheel)
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Found a supplier
http://cgi.ebay.de/Anschlusskabel-Ra...QQcmdZViewItem

plenty available and they also do the individual socket and pins
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Excellent, Keith, sounds like a good enough excuse to pop down with my VDO unit to test fit, and have a look at the collection of cars you possess - what am I saying, look, hear and drool!

Thanks. Will pm but it won't be this week or next.
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Found a supplier
http://cgi.ebay.de/Anschlusskabel-Ra...QQcmdZViewItem

plenty available and they also do the individual socket and pins
Keith,
what about this, I have found in my workshop....

All pins are wired on the BMW female.
The one you show on the German site has four empty sockets.
The four sockets are wired on the one I have.... wired directly to the BMW male connector.

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Where did you get that from it looks like a universal adapt to anything type adapter doesn't it

I have already ordered two of the ones from Ebay and some spare terminals as I will have to make further mods to link up the K bus etc

Yours is a late car which came with Nav iirc, I would be interested to know if your nav loom connects to the car side via an adapter to the ISO connectors or if your car has the BMW female socket already my guess for later ISO cars MGR produced an adapter with the BMW female socket at one end and three connectors at the other, two ISO and a little 6 pin plug
If they did I doubt it will be easy to find the part number though!

You may have noticed the separate 6 pin plug as well (look up C0982/C0389) when you put your 16:9 screen in, this in earlier cars provided just three wires, wheel speed sensor info and the reverse switch plus the wire to the IKE for Lo-Line output but in my car side harness all 6 pins are populated as this now included the wires they ran out of room for in the two ISO plugs, i.e it now has K bus and steering wheel controls as well.

This retrofitting Hi-Line is proving easier than I had expected. Or should I say so far!

Once I get this adapter sorted out the only thing I really need to track down is a decent add on TV aerial either screen mount or something else as on my car I can't connect to the TV antenna built into the HRW I might first try a simple loop of wire using the original TV diversity interface but as TV reception is not brilliant in my other two cars I can use the opportunity to improve on it

I won't be fitting some horrendous boot lid mounted thing though like you see on Campers and Cadillacs etc
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