All kicking off in Salisbury

Darcydog · 5th March 2018, 18:30

A Russian Defector - who was convicted in Russia of spying for MI6 - and his lady companion - are in Salisbury Hospital ITU after what looks like a deliberate poisoning that took place in the Maltings Shopping Centre.

A couple of areas in the City have been cordoned off and decontaminated by guys in full decontamination suits.

The same has had to be done at Salisbury District Hospital A&E department.

Groundsman Willie · 5th March 2018, 19:53

This popped up on Google earlier. Latest reports are talking about a "Fentanyl exposure" involving up to 10 people, which makes no sense at all. Fentanyl is an opioid, misused in the same way as heroin , not a Polonium-210 substitute.
Fentanyl overdose would not need cordons and men in hazmat suits.
Russian assassination or junkie overdose? Not sure yet.

macafee2 · 6th March 2018, 06:56

The news last night said a restaurant had been closed as a precaution, made it sound as if it were food poisoning. I'm not saying it is it was just the way the news described it despite the couple being found on a bench.

I wonder how contagious the poison is? Are the precautions ott?

macafee2

rustymotor · 6th March 2018, 07:21

The guy was a double agent went to prison for spying for us, was released via a prisoner exchange..my grandmother blamed the Russians for everything even the weather

stevenicks · 6th March 2018, 07:21

The Kremlin is denying any involvement but they would, wouldn't they?

Darcydog · 6th March 2018, 07:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenicks

The Kremlin is denying any involvement but they would, wouldn't they?

The Russian State denies everything they have done wrong right up to the point when the evidence is incontrovertible! And then the squeal persecution after that.

The Russian State sponsored doping scandals prove that.

wraymond · 6th March 2018, 10:04

There’s long been a problem with foreign ‘activities’ on home soil (if that’s what this is). Whatever happens is shrouded in claims and counterclaims just short of ministerial accusation just in case a diplomatic incident arises.

Virtually every one of these occasions is disguised by authorities and half-truths become a base for wild exaggeration and public distrust. If there is so much danger of rocking the boat that the truth must be kept secret then the boat is unstable anyway and might just as well be sunk and a new model developed.

Like the end of the Diplomatic Bag and the reduction in the status of foreign embassies from protected territory to what it actually should be: home soil, subject to inland security, law, and scrutiny. If everyone adopted the same criteria there wouldn’t be a problem and lo, and behold, trust would break out.

planenut · 6th March 2018, 10:26

I will reserve judgement until the outcome of the investigation.

rustymotor · 6th March 2018, 10:35

Wonder how much the Russians had to do with Trumps election campaign, did they pay the $89 million for facebook and google social media campaigns?

trikey · 6th March 2018, 11:54

The Russians do t do anything wrong do they.

just look at what happened to litvenenko.

5th March 2018, 18:30	#1
Darcydog This is my second home Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,428 Thanks: 3,123 Thanked 3,170 Times in 2,096 Posts	All kicking off in Salisbury A Russian Defector - who was convicted in Russia of spying for MI6 - and his lady companion - are in Salisbury Hospital ITU after what looks like a deliberate poisoning that took place in the Maltings Shopping Centre. A couple of areas in the City have been cordoned off and decontaminated by guys in full decontamination suits. The same has had to be done at Salisbury District Hospital A&E department.

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Groundsman Willie Gets stuck in Rover 75 1.8t Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Newbury Posts: 842 Thanks: 783 Thanked 423 Times in 264 Posts	This popped up on Google earlier. Latest reports are talking about a "Fentanyl exposure" involving up to 10 people, which makes no sense at all. Fentanyl is an opioid, misused in the same way as heroin , not a Polonium-210 substitute. Fentanyl overdose would not need cordons and men in hazmat suits. Russian assassination or junkie overdose? Not sure yet. __________________ Dave

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stevenicks This is my second home MG ZT 180 Auto / Rover 75 2.0 Diesel Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brecon. Posts: 7,465 Thanks: 3,297 Thanked 1,666 Times in 1,264 Posts	The Kremlin is denying any involvement but they would, wouldn't they? __________________ "You're Not Laughing Now Are You?" Steve

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wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,185 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	There’s long been a problem with foreign ‘activities’ on home soil (if that’s what this is). Whatever happens is shrouded in claims and counterclaims just short of ministerial accusation just in case a diplomatic incident arises. Virtually every one of these occasions is disguised by authorities and half-truths become a base for wild exaggeration and public distrust. If there is so much danger of rocking the boat that the truth must be kept secret then the boat is unstable anyway and might just as well be sunk and a new model developed. Like the end of the Diplomatic Bag and the reduction in the status of foreign embassies from protected territory to what it actually should be: home soil, subject to inland security, law, and scrutiny. If everyone adopted the same criteria there wouldn’t be a problem and lo, and behold, trust would break out. __________________ member no. 235

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trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,765 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	All kicking off in Salisbury The Russians do t do anything wrong do they. just look at what happened to litvenenko. __________________ Lest we forget..

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macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,912 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	The news last night said a restaurant had been closed as a precaution, made it sound as if it were food poisoning. I'm not saying it is it was just the way the news described it despite the couple being found on a bench. I wonder how contagious the poison is? Are the precautions ott? macafee2

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planenut Regional Secretary Rover 1.8T Tourer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Heathrow Posts: 6,948 Thanks: 1,551 Thanked 2,036 Times in 1,264 Posts	I will reserve judgement until the outcome of the investigation.

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rustymotor Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: May 2017 Location: Hull Posts: 1,848 Thanks: 216 Thanked 432 Times in 340 Posts	Wonder how much the Russians had to do with Trumps election campaign, did they pay the $89 million for facebook and google social media campaigns?