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Old 9th December 2018, 10:26   #1
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Old 9th December 2018, 11:21   #2
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Whilst I agree electric cars are going to be the car of the future, one thing that doesn’t get mentioned is the servicing of these electric cars.

Auto Express highlight this from figures supplied by IMI Institute of the Motor Industry that there is a serious shortfall in qualified mechanics to carry out this work. The figures are quite shocking as they say only 3% are qualified.

I can foresee repair work being held up and costs rocketing way above that of current mainstream dealerships.

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Old 9th December 2018, 11:50   #3
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Old 9th December 2018, 12:07   #4
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Alas it is like a lot of things, what is true?
How long will it be before an electric car is equal to a petrol/diesel car?
Range at speed and recharging time seem to be their stumbling block at the moment


What I had not considered is the industry behind making petrol and diesel, what will happen to that?

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What I had not considered is the industry behind making petrol and diesel, what will happen to that?.......

Presumably the same as happens to any other industry where technological advancements render it obsolete - it vanishes except for a very small, dedicated and specialised group of enthusiasts.

Steam locomotives/traction engines or typewriters anyone.....

The knock on effects for the overall economy are, I'd hazard a guess, potentially rather large.

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Always liked Robert Llewelyn since his early days in scrapyard challenge. The video is intelligently made and exposes the likes of topgear et all.
However the same fate will befall lithium or other resources, whether it will be wars, political shenanigans leading to scarcity.
Until the human race accepts that population growth is acceptable and consumerism ends we are are a one way ticket to depletion of all these resources and more wars over these finite resources. Still once we are gone at least the world will have a rest for a few billion years before some other form manifest itself.

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Lets hurry up and get to Mars. I have it on good authority that there is plenty of everything there. Do they realise the humans are coming I ask myself.Lithium, from what I have read, is a very short life material. And is still in short supply. In its basic form it is like platinum,expensive.It can be extracted from sea water, but very expensively. And just to top it off, where is all the electric coming from to charge millions of batteries up? We only have to have a bit of a cold spell and the authorities tell us to cut back on consumption because we can not generate enough.
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A sign of things to come, however plenty fuel fires out ther too I would suggest.

BBC radio Sally travel announcements that will become normal, car abandoned and x mile tailback due to flat battery. It’s human nature. I find it hard to keep my iPhone charged never mind a car.
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Always been interested in the electric car industry, just heard that 'Dyson' (of vacuum fame) is in the throws of designing his own electric car and with his usual no-nonsense approach to design and implementation it will definitely be a winner, all other manufacturers better sit up and take notice, he's a clever chap and my guess is ... he's going clean up.
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My wife works for Nissan and the 'Leaf' is a good car tbh, very well made and full of tech wizardry, the previous model did around 125 miles on a charge, the new 2018 model now does 250 miles on a charge!
It's the range that's the all important thing with these cars, battery life /efficiency is getting better all the time and apparently Nissan is at present in talks with world suppliers of batteries and car manufacturers to hopefully homologate the size / power output of batteries, so... you drive your car until it needs a charge, pull into a Tesco's / petrol station / motorway services or any other place that will use this system of 'like for like' pre-charged /conditioned batteries have it changed while you have a cuppa and off you go.
It will work on the principal of a 'pit stop' just like filling will fuel.
If all car manufacturers agree to use half a dozen different size batteries dependant on vehicle size and specification, it will work quite well I would imagine. A bit like when unification came in for tooling and fasteners... the motor industry benefitted enormously from that.
So basically ... all your fuel stations no matter where they are at present will be battery change stations.
Personally I think it's a definite step in the right direction for the electric motor industry as a whole.
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