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27th July 2010, 13:58 | #1 |
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2.5 KV6 Inlet manifold
I am fairly sure I need a replacement manifold for my 03 KV6 2.5L. due to mine rattling. I repaired both VIS motors, still rattled, I removed the balance motor butterfly still rattled, I even removed the inards from the power vis, droped the vis body back onto the manifold with top off, dropped the gear into the body turned the gear it so the power valve slide lever was being pulled hard in one direction. In that position I zip tied the gear in place, I then replaced the top and secured the vis and it still rattttttles Grrrrrr.
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There is no repair for the manifold and i think you may need to replace the vis motors as well, you shouldnt manualy move the motors of the vis quite expensive to replace at around the £190 mark for the 2 as for the manifold they are a sealed unit and cant be repared if you do a search there is pics of a dead manifold which shows the inside. haveing replaced a few (quite a easy job) they seam to be a reacuring problem on the kv6 engine...There may be members who will point you in the right direction as to weare you can get one but be ready as a new one can cost from £400 upwards, i have fitted a second hand unit with motors of a fellow member been working fine for a few years and that was £150 ish , for a guide price look on the bay of fleas........edit...... Pics curtisy of kieth alex Last edited by Cymrudragon; 27th July 2010 at 14:22.. |
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a rattling manifold is broken beyond repair. basically, the power motor operates an arm which basically falls off the valves in the manifold. this means it just sits there and will rattle for ever, but wont do any damage. it is general wear caused by the engine vibrating, and the oily atmosphere inside the manifold. the only way to remedy is to (as you sugested) buy a non rattling one. one thing i will say though is the replacement manifold will end up in the same way but depending on the age of the car will determine how much wear has taken place. i have some pics somewhere which i can show you
here you go, have a look at this thread - http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...t=61192&page=2
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If I stripped the manifold as shown in a previous "How to Thead" do you think I would be able to re attach the arm and thus repair it or not.
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i doubt it. if you actually manage to get the inspection pannel off in one piece (which is more of a job than it sounds, its glued on) then you will probably find the little balls and cups on the valves will be beyond repair. if you could find a way to replace them, then yes, you could repair it, but as i said, you probably wont get the inspection panel off without breaking it
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Thanks for that I might have a go im in no rush I bought the car as a bit of a project. I understand from a previous thread you can get the glued cover off with a dremmel saw. I would still be interested if anybody has a good one for sale though.
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Buying a second hand manifold could be a costly exercise - who's to say that won't start rattling also. I know of a ZT190 & the workings had been totally removed from the IM - one way to fix it! Buying a Landrover IM is/was cheaper than one from XPart/Rimmers. Or, try these: http://www.bba-reman.com/content.asp...nifold_failing
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Wouldnt bother attempting to fix it many have tryed but to no efect, some have tryed re-placing the arms with alloy arms but the ball is worn as well as the grove it sits in. some say the manifold will cause no harm if used in this condition but after the few i have done this is not the case, in one instance the valve was jamed in the alloy port on the manifold had to replace that as well ... up to you mate
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where the two black lines are the profile of the cover and body, and the yelow is the glue. if you saw between the gap, you will cut through the step
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Interesting to find out how you will receal the rear access panel of the unit been trying/looking for an answer for 2 years , removed all the butterflys etc but there is no way of fixing the panel back tryed all different glues self tappers etc dont think it can be done if it could id be rich i think |
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