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Old 16th October 2018, 12:26   #41
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All the good intentions above will not stop this.....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-45869648
With respect, you don't know that. Are three people dead because that driver hasn't had his eyes tested since he passed his test the first time?

Would a mandatory retest have picked up on poor eyesight?

Until we know how he ended up going the wrong way on the m40 we haven't got the first clue whether any of the good intentions above would have prevented it or not.
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Old 16th October 2018, 12:31   #42
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With respect, you don't know that. Are three people dead because that driver hasn't had his eyes tested since he passed his test the first time?

Would a mandatory retest have picked up on poor eyesight?

Until we know how he ended up going the wrong way on the m40 we haven't got the first clue whether any of the good intentions above would have prevented it or not.
The BBC News page has been updated since the link was originally posted, initially there was no mention of even a collision let alone fatalities.
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Old 16th October 2018, 12:48   #43
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I'd bring back the bloke with the red flag.
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Old 16th October 2018, 13:15   #44
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With respect, you don't know that. Are three people dead because that driver hasn't had his eyes tested since he passed his test the first time?

Would a mandatory retest have picked up on poor eyesight?

Until we know how he ended up going the wrong way on the m40 we haven't got the first clue whether any of the good intentions above would have prevented it or not.
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The BBC News page has been updated since the link was originally posted, initially there was no mention of even a collision let alone fatalities.
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The BBC News page has been updated since the link was originally posted, initially there was no mention of even a collision let alone fatalities.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-45878215

Sadly as there are fatalities, including the caravanners it seems unlikely that the reasons will ever really be known.

Having been a passenger in a car that was driven on the wrong side of a road in a town, for a short distance at about 20mph, I was quite worried until the driver was told he and got back out of the way of oncoming traffic.
The driver said after he thought it was a double lane one way street .

I don't really want yo imagine what this must have been like for anyone involved, especially at motorway speeds, totally horrifying.

What has been said previously about retests, eye tests, roadworthiness , reactions etc, would surely go some way to preventing this sort of thing happening?
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Interesting thread..my only comment would be the current driving test is not good enough and some folk are passing by fluke..I don't put anyone in for test unless I'm sure they are ready.
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Interesting thread..my only comment would be the current driving test is not good enough and some folk are passing by fluke..I don't put anyone in for test unless I'm sure they are ready.
Sadly it is only a test and new drivers are taught to pass that test, its only then they can start learning to drive. Thirty years on and I am still learning.

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With respect, you don't know that. Are three people dead because that driver hasn't had his eyes tested since he passed his test the first time?

Would a mandatory retest have picked up on poor eyesight?

Until we know how he ended up going the wrong way on the m40 we haven't got the first clue whether any of the good intentions above would have prevented it or not.
Yup, that's how he had already got to the outside lane? Very sad for all those involved and those that witnessed it, I stand by my comment.
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Interesting thread..my only comment would be the current driving test is not good enough and some folk are passing by fluke..I don't put anyone in for test unless I'm sure they are ready.
"People need more driving lessons" . . . . spoken like a true driving instructor
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Old 16th October 2018, 14:46   #49
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Graded driving tests.

Maybe A,B,C, and D.

With these plates on the cars.

The higher the grade you achieve the faster you are allowed to drive.

Number plate recognition to impose instant fines on those driving faster than their grade.

If it made drivers ashamed to drive with a low grade on their cars it would make them learn a bit more and thus become less dangerous in their driving.

Grade A-----40mph.

Grade B------50mph.

Grade C------60mph

Grade D------70mph.

Bit of a status symbol over the neighbours.---
A similar scheme is already in place (for decades) within the UK. It didn't stop me from exceeding my 45mph restriction. What it does do though, is highlight an inexperienced driver to other road users.

What has recently come into force though, is a half points system. If you gathered 6 points or more, whilst driving with an R plate in force, you would lose your licence and have to resit your test. Or you can have you restriction extended beyond the one year.



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1. Ban diesel

2. Ban petrol

3. Ban driving during the rush hour
4. Ban rover 75s ?

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