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Old 8th May 2016, 21:26   #11
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Resurrection. I had the same problem today. For those saying it's the wrong kit, it's not, it's the correct kit. The problem is that your original EGR valve has been stuck slightly open AND you've had a broken flexi joint on the EGR supply pipe. Now that you've blanked it off completely, the additional back pressure on the supply pipe has been too much for the damaged flexi joint which has given up the ghost.



I've had both types of EGR bypass, the one with the stem and plate for the exhaust supply pipe, and the conventional cylinder type that's supplied with blanking discs and a manifold blanking plate and gasket. The latter is better, if it's properly fitted. You need to remove the entire EGR exhaust supply pipe and fit the blanking plate and gasket to the exhaust manifold. You'll have no problems after this is done. Car on ramps and done from underneath is my guess at the moment but will update tomorrow night with photos when I've done mine.



If you have ever been able to smell exhaust gases in the car when sitting at traffic lights etc, chances are that the EGR flexi joint is leaxing. Bypass it and blank the supply port on the manifold, you'll never have that problem again.

Ross, would this be more accessible by removing the air filter housing?
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Old 9th May 2016, 13:37   #12
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Interesting thread, as I'm just about to fit the same sort of kit and was wondering about the best way to go about it.
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Old 9th May 2016, 18:20   #13
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Ross, would this be more accessible by removing the air filter housing?
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Sean,

Removing the top half of the air filter housing doesn't really give any more clearance. The bottom half is part of the cam cover and that's a potential can of worms with oil leaks and new gaskets, broken leak-off connectors etc.

It's difficult to get to the bolts from underneath. They are a Torx T40 fitting and there's a water pipe in the way that makes it "sporting" to get a socket on.

The way to do it is by removing the battery and battery box, and going in from the side. I'm off to do this now. Isn't it great to have daylight until 9pm
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Ok. As suspected, the EGR supply pipe was almost completely detached at the flexi joint, it came apart when I touched it. After a good look from underneath and from the front, there is no easy way to get to the bolts holding the pipe to the exhaust manifold without stripping some stuff out of the engine bay.

You have to remove the battery, battery box, battery box mounting tray and the engine bay fuel pump/fuel filter. Be careful to remove the clips attaching the clutch slave hose and the fuel pipes and electrical wiring to the battery box before you yank it out.



You can see that the EGR supply pipe has given up the ghost, and it's front mounting bolt here. This bolt needs to be removed, it's 12mm if I recall:



Next you can just see the Torx 40 bolts that mount the supply pipe to the manifold. Both of these need to come out. I used a long extension bar and a torx bit on the end. The top one was pretty tight, needing a long ratchet to start it moving. The bottom one was easy to remove with a standard torque wrench on the long extension bar:



With those 3 bolts removed, the EGR supply pipe will fall off easily (probably through the bottom of the engine bay unless you catch it quickly), and you'll be left with this. Yours will likely be in 1 piece:




This is the blanking plate and gasket. It comes with 2 new 12mm hex bolts:



This can be fitted by feel from the front of the car. Just get the bolts in a couple of turns and do the rest with an extension bar from the side, just as you did when you removed the torx bolts. Do them up nice and tight and put everything back together.

This isn't a difficult job at all. It took me about 50 minutes from start to finish, including taking photographs, and I wasn't rushing. I hope it's helpful to anybody fitting this type of EGR bypass. It's definitely the best type to have, because you're NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- if your flexi pops and you don't have a blanking plate.

I took the car for a test drive, and it's back to behaving itself. The throttle response is vastly improved with the bypass fitted and the flexi removed. I think mine had been leaking since I got it, and the bypass finished it off.
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Very interested in this - no fault on my car, but I have an EGR bypass already so the exhaust bit is completely redundant so just another thing that take up space, weight and could fail.

Can you get the bits separately? I already have a bypass.
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I ve also fitted the one with the egr blanking plate fitted to the side of the new body , and have fitted the one you show at the start of this thread ,i was lucky enought to remove the flexi pipe and one of the retaining clips , i then used one of the round discs supplied and the retaining clip to hopefully blank off the egr pipe, i say hopefully as i havent used the car yet ,having seen the picture of the length of the pipe i am now wondering if it will fracture over time and am wishing i had purchased the first one i tryed,
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I wonder if this one will fit....i all ready have a bypass
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Default Size of Torx screws on my rover 75 Diesel bypass were T45 not T40

Hi everybody
Just changed removed my EGR and replaced with older model bypass kit so had to blank the Exhaust manifold.
Just a heads up on the Torx screws i used a T40 tool and just slipped on the screws mine were T45 Torx screws and were very tight.

hope this helps somebody.
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I undertook this job today having fitted an egr blank kit last weekend but using the two blanking discs on the flexi pipe. I tried the full removal of the flexi pipe but backed out of it, I felt like I couldn't get to the lower torx bolt at all! Having driven the car I was worried about the flexi pipe cracking and don't want to run it like this permanently. Today I tried again to get the flexi pipe off with more determination this time. Thanks so much for the guide, Ross R75! My torx screws were T45 (thanks janker). I ended up working out how to feed my double extension bar set up through the various pipes that get in the way (see first pic), being constantly afraid of rounding off the torx heads by not keeping it straight! Or dropping things in the abyss of the engine bay! I even needed a breaker bar to help carefully crack off the bottom torx screw, it was tight! I did that one first in case I couldn't do it. Even with small hands to fit the new blank plate, this was one of the more awkward jobs I've ever done! So pleased to get it done! Whilst my flexi pipe was perfectly intact, the disc blank seems to have been letting air past, judging by the black soot marks...not ideal?
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I undertook this job today having fitted an egr blank kit last weekend but using the two blanking discs on the flexi pipe. I tried the full removal of the flexi pipe but backed out of it, I felt like I couldn't get to the lower torx bolt at all! Having driven the car I was worried about the flexi pipe cracking and don't want to run it like this permanently. Today I tried again to get the flexi pipe off with more determination this time. Thanks so much for the guide, Ross R75! My torx screws were T45 (thanks janker). I ended up working out how to feed my double extension bar set up through the various pipes that get in the way (see first pic), being constantly afraid of rounding off the torx heads by not keeping it straight! Or dropping things in the abyss of the engine bay! I even needed a breaker bar to help carefully crack off the bottom torx screw, it was tight! I did that one first in case I couldn't do it. Even with small hands to fit the new blank plate, this was one of the more awkward jobs I've ever done! So pleased to get it done! Whilst my flexi pipe was perfectly intact, the disc blank seems to have been letting air past, judging by the black soot marks...not ideal?
Hi Helen.
First well done for tackling the job in the first place, but i have to say it is a lot of work, when you could have just used an original EGR gutted and bolted that on, also remember that the manifold will still be gunked up unless that is removed and cleaned along with the MAP sensor.

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