KV6 crankshaft pulley

SD1too · 5th April 2018, 15:06

According to RAVE, I should have a notch on my crankshaft pulley to align with the 'SAFE' marking on the engine front mounting plate. I do not appear to have one!

So far, I have exposed the LH camshafts' rear sprockets and aligned the notches there. Here are photographs of the top and bottom of my crankshaft pulley.

Can anyone see a notch? I can't.

Although my car was assembled in May 1999, I've noticed that the engine front mounting plate was cast the previous October! That's a long wait for the "just in time" system of component distribution.

Simon

grs6680 · 5th April 2018, 17:59

i think if i remember its behind that pulley wheel and its on the timing belt pulley.

SD1too · 5th April 2018, 18:29

No, there's definitely supposed to be a notch on the ancillary belt pulley. It's described and illustrated in RAVE plus I have a photograph posted by a KV6 Freelander owner.

You're right Gordon that there's a notch on the crankshaft sprocket which aligns with the 'speech bubble' hidden behind the pulley. But once the pulley has been removed to expose this, it is no longer possible to turn the engine if the setting is wrong.

Simon

Ennine · 5th April 2018, 20:04

Simon. I've just pulled all the images from my backup files (all on external drive now) but cannot find anything close enough but I do remember having the self same issue. If memory serves it was on the rear lip but very hard indeed to find when I eventually did. I've blown up your images and there is certainly nothing to be seen there. Surely, if the rears are aligned and the locating pin is in place in the flywheel it has to be correct ?

mh007 · 5th April 2018, 20:06

Looks like It's been apart before looking at the crank pulley bolt & the tippex marks.

Can you see any notch on the innermost part of the pulley?

Have you got a crankshaft timing/locking pin? If you can't find any notch, perhaps go by the camshaft markings & crankshaft timing/locking pin.

Arctic · 5th April 2018, 21:45

Is it me or does this picture on rimmers show a notch about 1oclock

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-LHG000070L

Ennine · 5th April 2018, 21:50

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Originally Posted by Arctic

Is it me or does this picture on rimmers show a notch about 1oclock

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-LHG000070L

It sure looks like it, but the item on Simon's car may not be the same

Jim Jamieson · 5th April 2018, 22:21

I would try sanding the rust off the pulley. You may see the marks on it corrrsponding to the SAFE marking.
Of course you can also find the safe point by inserting a locking pin through the engine block into the flywheel (manual gearbox) or torque converter (automatic gearbox)

I’ve just completed my timing belts on my V6 project with auto box.
It’s very easy to fabricate a lock pin.

Mike Noc · 6th April 2018, 08:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too

You're right Gordon that there's a notch on the crankshaft sprocket which aligns with the 'speech bubble' hidden behind the pulley. But once the pulley has been removed to expose this, it is no longer possible to turn the engine if the setting is wrong.

Simon

Just put the pulley bolt back in with a spacer (a large nut, some washers or a socket) and you can turn the engine to where you want it Simon.

With the spark plugs out there is little resistance.

Lovel · 6th April 2018, 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD1too

No, there's definitely supposed to be a notch on the ancillary belt pulley. It's described and illustrated in RAVE plus I have a photograph posted by a KV6 Freelander owner.

You're right Gordon that there's a notch on the crankshaft sprocket which aligns with the 'speech bubble' hidden behind the pulley. But once the pulley has been removed to expose this, it is no longer possible to turn the engine if the setting is wrong.

Simon

With the crank pulley lined up with the Safe timing mark, I have found the speech bubble behind the pulley on the oil pump housing does not line up in the past and the fact that it is an irrelevant mark when it comes to timing up the engine.

Your best to insert the flywheel locking pin and recheck the face of the crank pulley to see if there is any signs of a faint mark before proceeding any further.

My experience.
https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...ight=safe+mark

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SD1too Doesn't do things by halves Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur Auto (1999) Dealer launch model. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Former Middlesex Posts: 20,344 Thanks: 1,587 Thanked 3,749 Times in 3,181 Posts	No, there's definitely supposed to be a notch on the ancillary belt pulley. It's described and illustrated in RAVE plus I have a photograph posted by a KV6 Freelander owner. You're right Gordon that there's a notch on the crankshaft sprocket which aligns with the 'speech bubble' hidden behind the pulley. But once the pulley has been removed to expose this, it is no longer possible to turn the engine if the setting is wrong. Simon __________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Sir Henry Royce.

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Jim Jamieson This is my second home Rover less ! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tarbolton Posts: 3,442 Thanks: 393 Thanked 888 Times in 542 Posts	I would try sanding the rust off the pulley. You may see the marks on it corrrsponding to the SAFE marking. Of course you can also find the safe point by inserting a locking pin through the engine block into the flywheel (manual gearbox) or torque converter (automatic gearbox) I’ve just completed my timing belts on my V6 project with auto box. It’s very easy to fabricate a lock pin.