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Old 17th August 2021, 11:00   #1
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Default MG190 horseshoe adaptors for timing tools

Does anyone have a pair of these for sale or hire please?

We have everything else but cannot "reverse" the Rover 2.0 horseshoes as the pins are welded.

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PS Original part no. 12R208
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I thought DGMRS sold them seperatly, ( I was going to buy a pair), but I can't find them on the website anymore.....
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https://www.asttools.co.uk/camshaft-...v6-190-ast4617
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Hi Rich,

Thanks for your response. The car's owner has talked to DMGRS who say they are having difficulty with supply.

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Thanks for this but I have to apologise for forgetting to say that AST were our first port of call but they have no stock.

I have also asked my local ex-MGR dealership who said that they had the tool but flatly refused to lend it to me. I can't altogether blame the current staff as all my contacts (who knew I could be trusted to take care of things and return them on time) left years ago.

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Hi Rich,

Thanks for your response. The car's owner has talked to DMGRS who say they are having difficulty with supply.

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Bother. I knew I should have brought them when I saw them....

I have the rest of the kit, but alas, my 2.0 tools are also not swapable....
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I am pleased to say that I have now received a PM from another club member who has offered us his 190 horseshoes on a loan basis.

Thank you to everyone who replied to, or just read, my appeal for help.

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if not too late simon , whilst in there , can you let us know if the rear notches for the timing on the rear pulleys line up. with the 190 horseshoes fitted i wondered if the mismatch was only on the 177 models as the camshaft positions are now altered with the front tools fitted. ... just a thought. ..
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That's a good point Stefan, I certainly will. Due to holidays, we will resume work on the ZT-T in two weeks' time.

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thanks simon.will be interesting to note. i have my reservations though that they will still be out of alignment. the tools have too much play when located into the fronts of the camshaft slots , the valve spring tensions will exploit this play. also play in the belts to teeth on the rears dont help either. maybe the sole purpose of these rear notched marks are to give you your outboard or inboard position to the crank pin (so as not to be out of rotation sequence) and to give you approx location for the toothed belts one tooth each side of the camshaft keys. maybe they are not supposed to align perfectly at this stage but are indeed set by the keyway positions after the front tool positions are set. the keyways may be rolled further round on the camshafts for this purpose and require secondry adjustments as per the keyway rotation needed. it may all seem a little inaccurate but it works and works well. i have not seen the 190 rear mark notches when changing belts but suspect they will be slightly out visually as per the standard kv6. ... let us know simon ...
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