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Old 6th October 2019, 10:06   #1
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Default Hammerite with Waxoyl

Whilst looking under my new acquisition I noticed some parts of the underside are getting rusty.
I was thinking of wire brushing the rust off then treating with Krust then coating with Hammerite with Waxoyl.
I know there are other ways of doing the same thing but have any members done it the same way? What do you think and how is it looking after how much time?
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Old 6th October 2019, 10:13   #2
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I've done something similar a couple of weekends ago to my rear arms.

A damn good clean off, I used some wire wheels on the end of a electric drill. Then Krust, then after that dried I sprayed some stone guard over the top, and finally sprayed underseal with added Waxoyl over the top.

Time will tell over the winter how well it has done.

Something, anything to treat rust is far better than just letting it going it's merry way and eating away at your stead!

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Old 6th October 2019, 11:12   #3
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I used the underseal a few years ago on my m2 Cavalier and if I am honest I wasn't impressed. The rust simply built yp behind it leaving a bigger mess. I don't think the Hammerite products are as good as they used to be.
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Old 6th October 2019, 16:18   #4
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I have great respect for American paints. Hammerite is one of them.
Whether it still is as good as I think, I don't know.
But I do know that with painting, as with many other things in life, preparation is everything!
So unless you use a rust convertor, bare metal! or sound paint. Nothing else will do.
And under the car is usually not an inviting place to do a first class job.
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I have great respect for American paints. Hammerite is one of them.

Whether it still is as good as I think, I don't know.

But I do know that with painting, as with many other things in life, preparation is everything!

So unless you use a rust convertor, bare metal! or sound paint. Nothing else will do.

And under the car is usually not an inviting place to do a first class job.
But, was that not the draw.of hammerite? Remove loose rust and away you go, even over surface rust? It worked well for me about 30 years ago. It didn't seem the same when I used it a couple of years ago, but that was on bare metal.

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But, was that not the draw.of hammerite? Remove loose rust and away you go, even over surface rust? It worked well for me about 30 years ago. It didn't seem the same when I used it a couple of years ago, but that was on bare metal.

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Yes all loose rust removed, plus the fact that no primer is required.
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When I was younger Hammerite was great. Something must have changed as I don't find their products as good. I always clean up with wire brushes on a drill or those ploy wheels first. Here's an example. I did a previous Rover with Hammerite and then waxoyl. Took me a week to prep it all to my satisfaction first. My daily Toyota got a quick clean some red oxide overcoated with spray cans from Poundland. The Toyota faired much better despite being in much the same starting condition!
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Hammerite is supposed to be non porous and waterproof so what does wax-oil over the top do.---

I guess it might creep into stone chips but wax-oil seems to go non runny after a while.
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I totally agree with Hammerite products not being what they where.

They used to be produced by Finergans ( not sure if that's spelt correctly )
I used to have an old MKII Escort and it did a great job of protecting the floor pans.

But when Hammerite became a brand on it's own, not a brand by Finergans, and no doubt health and safety got involved , and apparently it kills squirrels etc, etc then "less" harmful chemicals to the planet had to be used.

So, to sum up, it's a poor imitation of what it used to be, sold for much more than it was in a smaller container!
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Bilt Hamber products and or Dinitrol for me
https://www.bilthamber.com/corrosion...st-treatments/
https://www.dinitroldirect.com/dinit...roduct-ranges/
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