Be Wary - Virus Is Still There.

[COLVERT]

Anybody vaccinated or with natural immunity could carry the virus and infect others with showing no trace themselves.---

Forcing folk to take the jab then telling them everything is OK is just not true.

We all carry lots of different types of infections in out bodies all of our lives. Show no symptoms, and are not affected personally by them but can still infect others.

Blank vaccination isn't the be all and end all of this virus. Tests for anti-bodies in the vaccinated and non vaccinated is really the only way to accurately assess the situation we are all living in. Not 100 percent but much more accurate than the guessing game the OFFICIAL sources are engaged in.---

[Avulon]

Originally Posted by wraymond

Well it won’t be long now before we are all basking in those sunlit uplands of vaccinated purity. Even the Army is subject to mass hysteria it seems. REME, that bastion of courageous heroism and derring do, is now in the process of having standing orders to comply or face an involuntary demob.

If a squaddie refuses the vaccine he may be deemed as unfit to be a soldier and, er, ‘dealt with accordingly’. It’s part of the military covenant that the army cannot force soldiers to get vaccinated, but being ‘unfit to soldier’ is an offence anyway under the Armed Forces Act. Irresistible. So what would anyone do if they faced a dishonourable discharge coupled with the loss of the Services’ married quarters home?

Reports now appearing about moves being made elsewhere to socially isolate the unvaccinated by having to wear identifiable and traceable markers. How long before ankle tag/bracelets are compulsory?

There is a most unedifying climate change about to overcome us, based on fear of an unproven malady. The one thing that remains is the freedom of choice, but it is bit by acidic bit eroded by derogatory and gutter references to ‘Refusenicks’ etc. (Yesterday’s D. Mail banner headline).

Should I start stitching yellow stars on clothing now?

[steve-45]

Well, that’s the second vaccination done today. And they now seem to be talking about a third one as a booster September time.

[kaiser]

It is gratifying to see at how fast this panic induced madness is crumbling.
I notice the high priest is getting divorced, with potential nefarious dealings involving underage kids. The vaccine czar in the US has been caught in creating, funding, distributing AND profiting from this plandemic, and people generally are getting sick and tired of the repeated onslaught on their existence, life, liberties and freedoms.

This is going down in history as the most maligned overhyped and disgraceful attack on personal freedom and liberty in recorded history.

It just goes to show how far you can push people with fear, panic and snitching. The Nazis did not live in vain.!

Absolutely madness.

[Saga Lout]

I've done my research and I'm not having the vaccines, not because I don't trust them or believe the nonsense, it's simply because I've had the virus and my natural immunity trumps any lab manufactured copy. The B cells in my body are now ready to fight should I get a second dose of the virus. I must admit to thinking that the vaccines were the only way to fight it but, the vaccines will not outlast the natural immunity I now have, what puzzles me is why there's not public acknowledgement that people with antibodies are as safe as any vaccinated person. It's being reported that the vaccines protect against the variants and so, my own natural protection must be up to the job should it be needed. It does look like people are going to face discrimination over this issue and I'll likely be one of them but I'm not being bullied into something I simply don't need, it's true that antibody counts fall but I'm aware of that and the reasons why, what I also know is that they multiply again in the face of another bout of illness, the vaccine antibodies don't do that and need topping up. I've put a picture of my .Gov reply to my test, it says all anyone needs to know.

[planenut]

Not being as informed as others, and I do know the information from Official sources is out there, I was under the impression that vaccines are updated to help against new strains, the body's system will not have encountered those new strains.

[COLVERT]

I personally I think that transmission of these types of viruses will never go away but it doesn't matter if the virus has no effect on you personally

Every day the inside of your body is a battle ground against all kinds of things.--As long as your body wins the fight then all's good with the world.--However, as is clear to see, if you have a weakness specific to you then these invaders in your body will exploit it.

Lots of older folk who have health problems are the ones that covid has the most effect on.--That's generally why these folk need the help of the vaccine.

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by Saga Lout

I've done my research and I'm not having the vaccines, not because I don't trust them or believe the nonsense, it's simply because I've had the virus and my natural immunity trumps any lab manufactured copy. The B cells in my body are now ready to fight should I get a second dose of the virus. I must admit to thinking that the vaccines were the only way to fight it but, the vaccines will not outlast the natural immunity I now have, what puzzles me is why there's not public acknowledgement that people with antibodies are as safe as any vaccinated person. It's being reported that the vaccines protect against the variants and so, my own natural protection must be up to the job should it be needed. It does look like people are going to face discrimination over this issue and I'll likely be one of them but I'm not being bullied into something I simply don't need, it's true that antibody counts fall but I'm aware of that and the reasons why, what I also know is that they multiply again in the face of another bout of illness, the vaccine antibodies don't do that and need topping up. I've put a picture of my .Gov reply to my test, it says all anyone needs to know.

I would like to say that I agree very much with what you say. When you had the virus did it affect you very badly or did your immune system fight it off quite quickly ??

The chances are you would be OK fighting off a variant of the current infection.---Not having the vaccine means your system doesn't have to fight off the side effects that all these vaccines seem to have.

Millions of years of evolution have given most folk the ability to fight off these various virus attacks that happen from time to time.

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by planenut

Not being as informed as others, and I do know the information from Official sources is out there, I was under the impression that vaccines are updated to help against new strains, the body's system will not have encountered those new strains.

Of course the human body will far into the future encounter new strains.---That's why nature has endowed us all with a system to fight these new infections.

Some folk have systems that work very well. Others not so well.--It's the luck of the draw when you are first conceived.--Your genetic make up.

Us human beings try to invent things to assist any deficiencies in that make up. Hence vaccines.

[Saga Lout]

Originally Posted by COLVERT

I would like to say that I agree very much with what you say. When you had the virus did it affect you very badly or did your immune system fight it off quite quickly ??

The chances are you would be OK fighting off a variant of the current infection.---Not having the vaccine means your system doesn't have to fight off the side effects that all these vaccines seem to have.

Millions of years of evolution have given most folk the ability to fight off these various virus attacks that happen from time to time.

I had the virus bad enough to make me quite ill, I had a four day fever and it knocked me off so that I couldn't eat for fifteen days, I managed to hydrate all the time and I think fluids are the main thing to take with this virus. The variants to the virus will happen because people are not all the same, if I had a vaccine now it would be a waste and would be better given to someone in real need.