CDTI Oil change on ramps.

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by ADO282

I can't see why not, I would do it that way too, and indeed I did so while I had the car on ramps last week.


I also took the time to replace the fixings on the undertray with M6 bolts pointing downwards, locked to the subframe with nuts, and domed washers and a further M6 nut to secure the sandwich in place.


The result was quite good, you can now remove and refit the undertray with ease, and check to make sure there are no hidden leaks while it is off.


Make sure you obtain a new sump plug washer, the part number is ALU1403.......I believe the V6 has the same washer as the diesel.


The only thing I will say, now this may be as a result of my car having a factory premium bumper fitted, you may need low entry ramps to clear the leading lower edge of the bumper.


Take care and have fun !!

Keep the same ramps to give you the height but put a bit of sturdy wood on the front of each to give you a gentle run up.

Sump washer. I'm not saying anything against you worthy suggestion.-- However, in 60 years of fiddling with cars I have NEVER fitted a new sump washer and there have been no oil leaks.---( lucky or what. Lol. )


Well done with the work on the under-tray. I see you take no prisoners.---

[DaylightRovery]

Whey just finished a service and will never order a kit off ebay again. Wrong sized sump washer and fuel filter didn't fit. I strayed but MGRS will have my custom hense forth.
Draining oil was a bit of a pain the waps I must admit. Oil all over and what not. My only concern with those PELA pumps is the sludge left in the bottom of the sump? and how do you know of youve got ALL pf the manky old oil out?? for £40 I'm thinking of takong a punt.

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by DaylightRovery

Whey just finished a service and will never order a kit off ebay again. Wrong sized sump washer and fuel filter didn't fit. I strayed but MGRS will have my custom hense forth.
Draining oil was a bit of a pain the waps I must admit. Oil all over and what not. My only concern with those PELA pumps is the sludge left in the bottom of the sump? and how do you know of youve got ALL pf the manky old oil out?? for £40 I'm thinking of takong a punt.

With these modern detergent oils just about all the particles stay in suspension. I've, in the past, taken several diesel engines apart and they have always been VERY clean inside.

With the Pela pump you run the engine to heat the oil as you would with any method of oil changing. The suction tube from the suction pump goes down the dip stick hole and will touch the bottom of the sump. You lift it an 1/8 of an inch before you start to suck the old oil out.

You must have read my earlier post in this thread. It really is as easy as I said. ( You don't HAVE to wear your best suit if you don't want to.------)

I wear a thin pair of working gloves which might get a trace of oil on them when changing the filter. Apart from that no oil or dirt anywhere else.---

I only wash my hands in case my car has Covid 19.---

[Mike Trident]

Lol!

Yep, the suction method is the way to go. The Rover 75 diesel was actually designed for it I'm sure. Even the oil filter is placed at the top so you don't have to go underneath.

[ardvark]

Like Jon, I have never fitted a new sump washer. 'If it ain't broke' and all the rest.

[COLVERT]

Well done guys. At last some lateral thinking is creeping into this thread.--


For too long ROTE has been the order of the day.----Lol.

[bl52krz]

Originally Posted by COLVERT

Keep the same ramps to give you the height but put a bit of sturdy wood on the front of each to give you a gentle run up.

Sump washer. I'm not saying anything against you worthy suggestion.-- However, in 60 years of fiddling with cars I have NEVER fitted a new sump washer and there have been no oil leaks.---( lucky or what. Lol. )


Well done with the work on the under-tray. I see you take no prisoners.---

I wonder if when putting a piece of wood or anything else onto the ramp ‘steps’ of metal is a good thing to do? Why? Yesterday while at Lates 600 having work done on the KV6, my friend who came with me, owns a Jaguar XJ, and like most of us older guys, likes to do his own servicing. He had his car on ramps last week, and as when putting it on the ramps, uses a piece of wood halfway up the ramp so the bottom of the front bumper does not get caught going up. When he had finished, he was bringing the front of the car down the ramp, wnen he thought that the ramp had slipped from under the wheel,but when he looked, the ramp had collapsed where he had the piece of wood on the riser. Could not believe it when he looked. I must say I have never seen a metal ramp that looks safe to me. Mine are made of kitchen work surface board. No danger of them collapsing is there. Only problem, they are very heavy.

[Mike Noc]

Originally Posted by Mike Trident

Lol!

Yep, the suction method is the way to go. The Rover 75 diesel was actually designed for it I'm sure. Even the oil filter is placed at the top so you don't have to go underneath.

Each to their own Mike.


I have a suction pump but never use it on the car. I only need to change the oil annually so I like to get underneath and give everything the once over whilst I'm there - all part of the service.

[macafee2]

Originally Posted by COLVERT

Been doing mine for over ten years with a PELA pump.

Obviously the engine likes it and uses no oil between oil changes.

By the time you get your car up on the ramps after fighting with the under-tray and blood pressure in your head I will have got most of the old oil out of the engine even though I've not been there but away making a cup of tea.

Five minutes max taking out the old oil filter ( With a bit of cloth around it in case of oil spill ) and fitting the new one.

Fill with new oil. ( a couple of minutes ) and the job is done.

By this stage you might have got round to removing the over tightened sump plug and had hot oil run down your arm and into your arm pit.
You drag yourself back out from that danger zone under the car trying to brush off all that dirt sticking to your back and hair.---


Remember that by this time I've locked up my car and gone in to watch the tele.--

You ,however, have almost reached half way on your oil and filter change.-

You also have to add the time taken in the shower to remove the grime that's sticking all over you.
( That under-tray was a real curse trying to hold it up with your knees as you tried to fit the fixing bolts back in.)

I won't go on because you are getting more and more stressed by it all.


PS. I forgot to say but I was due to go out somewhere important after so had been wearing my suit during the oil change.---

By crawling underneath to do an oil change you can also inspect the underside for any problems.

macafee2

[macafee2]

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

Each to their own Mike.


I have a suction pump but never use it on the car. I only need to change the oil annually so I like to get underneath and give everything the once over whilst I'm there - all part of the service.

I do the same, get under the car and consider an inspection, time and effort well spent.

As you say, each to their own


There must be a reason for a drain point at the bottom of the endhine

macafee2