BANG! - Clutch Gone -> DIY or Garage Repair? - Page 3

rik007 · 8th February 2016, 12:34

Yup Ill have a look for it and get a photo Mike.

The car is on 110k miles if I remember correctly. Certainly over 100k. Will look when battery is reconnected.

Rich.

rik007 · 8th February 2016, 12:39

Hi, so I have my Borg clutch and metal slave from DMF.

However the salve doesn't seem to fit very easily into place. The pipes seem to make it wonky on the gearbox shaft. It wont slide all the way back and the pipes seem catch on the bell housing hole. Also the hydraulic pipe seems much longer than the old plastic one. Does that matter?

Here are some photos ..

FrenchMike · 8th February 2016, 13:01

Well Rich, Don't force ,you must get this:

resize your picts in 800x600 before sending them .

You can delete and re do it

Mike

EastPete · 8th February 2016, 13:03

Richard

I have watched Andy Willi fit these slaves - I think you have to get the two pipes from the slave to pass either side of the small v-shaped 'post' that sticks up from the gearbox bellhousing (I can see this in your photos just behind where the 2 pipes come out of the slave cylinder), and then put the rubber grommet in place that the two pipes go through, and that should hold the slave in place over the input shaft sleeve whilst you re-fit the gearbox. The slave looks crooked on the pictures you posted, and does not look right to me - it should sit back on the brass-coloured sleeve over the input shaft - give Andy a call to get his expert opinion. He also told me there is knack to bleeding these metal slaves - it can take three 'gos' to get all the air out of them, apparently -again, you might want to talk to him directly about this, rather than take my word for it !.

Good luck - let us know how it goes

Pete

rik007 · 8th February 2016, 19:31

Thanks Mike, great photo. I see it is a plastic type salve cylinder so hopefully Andy Willi will tell me how to seat the new one correctly. I see the 'V' post and the lay of the pipes so that's very helpful.

Rich

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrenchMike

Well Rich, Don't force ,you must get this:

resize your picts in 800x600 before sending them .

You can delete and re do it

Mike

rik007 · 8th February 2016, 19:34

I have re-sized the photos, so hopefully you can see them all now. My apologies.

Rich.

andy willi · 9th February 2016, 06:41

pipes not in correctly bleed pipe faces n/s wheel arch and feed pipe faaces rear of the car

andy

rik007 · 9th February 2016, 18:26

Well after some tea and a good few digestives .. (hobnobs would have been better), I got it centered up and fitted.

Had to do it twice though as the big knob from the universal clutch centralising device got stuck in the fingers of the pressure plate. It was not quiet wide enough to rest on the top of the fingers, so I cut a disc from some pesrpex then roughed it up so it would grip better and hey presto its in.

The box was a considerable pain in the rear end, but with much wiggling it also came good. I used French Mike's twin strap affair to get it level and into place. Andy Willi's almost certainly better at this job and clearly practice would speed up the process. It seems you learn an awful lot along the way first time round the block on this job. So, hopefully I haven't knackered the fingers on the pressure plate and all is well.

By the way I had to hold up the big plate between the gearbox and engine with a couple of small ties thought two lower bolt holes. Otherwise it kept dropping out of place. I just nipped them a pulled them out before pulling the box bolts up tight.

So, just put the rest back together and bleed the clutch then hey presto go for a big raz up Hardknott Pass :-)

Here is the perspex ring I made ..

rik007 · 9th February 2016, 18:30

Thanks Andy, you've been an real gent helping me on this job. Pictures very helpful re the salve it seated like a peach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy willi

pipes not in correctly bleed pipe faces n/s wheel arch and feed pipe faaces rear of the car

andy

rik007 · 9th February 2016, 18:37

Mike, here are some photos of the salve, I hope they are of interest?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...x/IMG_7069.JPG

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrenchMike

Confirms what you said on thirst post
"no drive to the wheels. Pressure on the pedal "

Not bad for the hydraulic ;what mileage ?
For info,could you take a pict of the slave seal ..

Mike

8th February 2016, 12:39	#22
rik007 Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer CDT 2002 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cumbria Posts: 404 Thanks: 41 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Slave fit not too good Hi, so I have my Borg clutch and metal slave from DMF. However the salve doesn't seem to fit very easily into place. The pipes seem to make it wonky on the gearbox shaft. It wont slide all the way back and the pipes seem catch on the bell housing hole. Also the hydraulic pipe seems much longer than the old plastic one. Does that matter? Here are some photos .. Last edited by rik007; 8th February 2016 at 19:40.. Reason: pic

8th February 2016, 13:01	#23
FrenchMike This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Avignon Posts: 4,466 Thanks: 94 Thanked 661 Times in 554 Posts	Well Rich, Don't force ,you must get this: resize your picts in 800x600 before sending them . You can delete and re do it Mike Last edited by FrenchMike; 8th February 2016 at 13:18..

8th February 2016, 12:34	#21
rik007 Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer CDT 2002 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cumbria Posts: 404 Thanks: 41 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Yup Ill have a look for it and get a photo Mike. The car is on 110k miles if I remember correctly. Certainly over 100k. Will look when battery is reconnected. Rich.

8th February 2016, 13:03	#24
EastPete Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Classic saloon, MGB GT, Skoda Yeti Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ramsey, Cambs Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 626 Thanked 635 Times in 430 Posts	Richard I have watched Andy Willi fit these slaves - I think you have to get the two pipes from the slave to pass either side of the small v-shaped 'post' that sticks up from the gearbox bellhousing (I can see this in your photos just behind where the 2 pipes come out of the slave cylinder), and then put the rubber grommet in place that the two pipes go through, and that should hold the slave in place over the input shaft sleeve whilst you re-fit the gearbox. The slave looks crooked on the pictures you posted, and does not look right to me - it should sit back on the brass-coloured sleeve over the input shaft - give Andy a call to get his expert opinion. He also told me there is knack to bleeding these metal slaves - it can take three 'gos' to get all the air out of them, apparently -again, you might want to talk to him directly about this, rather than take my word for it !. Good luck - let us know how it goes Pete

8th February 2016, 19:34	#26
rik007 Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer CDT 2002 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cumbria Posts: 404 Thanks: 41 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	I have re-sized the photos, so hopefully you can see them all now. My apologies. Rich.

9th February 2016, 18:26	#28
rik007 Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer CDT 2002 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cumbria Posts: 404 Thanks: 41 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Well after some tea and a good few digestives .. (hobnobs would have been better), I got it centered up and fitted. Had to do it twice though as the big knob from the universal clutch centralising device got stuck in the fingers of the pressure plate. It was not quiet wide enough to rest on the top of the fingers, so I cut a disc from some pesrpex then roughed it up so it would grip better and hey presto its in. The box was a considerable pain in the rear end, but with much wiggling it also came good. I used French Mike's twin strap affair to get it level and into place. Andy Willi's almost certainly better at this job and clearly practice would speed up the process. It seems you learn an awful lot along the way first time round the block on this job. So, hopefully I haven't knackered the fingers on the pressure plate and all is well. By the way I had to hold up the big plate between the gearbox and engine with a couple of small ties thought two lower bolt holes. Otherwise it kept dropping out of place. I just nipped them a pulled them out before pulling the box bolts up tight. So, just put the rest back together and bleed the clutch then hey presto go for a big raz up Hardknott Pass :-) Here is the perspex ring I made ..