The end of the Rover 75 as a useable car ? - Page 5

chris75 · 20th December 2017, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed3

please do not ignore the evidence. There is much on this site and elsewhere on this trend:-

https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...=277079&page=2

Bendrick's post :-
Apparently so. It's pretty worrying

I had a previous Rover 75 for three years with no problem of this description ( didn't have a sunroof on that one) and had no idea that an electrical or water ingress problem could cause something as bizarre as this to happen.

Then we have the problem that in cold weather Rover 75 (and BMW) doors will not close. Many Rover 75 owners are older who may need to rush a loved one to hospital during the cold weather especially as of late we can struggle to get ambulances to even emergencies in the UK. The very obvious risk is unless we get to the bottom of "exactly why" doors suddenly will not close Rover 75 enthusiasts could find themselves trying to rush a loved one to hospital in freezing temperatures in a car where they suddenly find that cannot close the door.

I think the OP is trying to wind us up !

Merry Xmas Ed3

championdaddy · 20th December 2017, 17:08

Well if the 75 and ZTs are no long useable........ I'm right stuffed then !!!

It's my everyday car LOL

Ed3 · 20th December 2017, 17:58

Evidence:-

Quote Bendrick's post :-
Apparently so. It's pretty worrying

HarryM1BYT · 20th December 2017, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCP440

The problem with a car model forum is most people will not come on here and say '' there has not been anything wrong with my car today and it has performed perfectly''

On the other hand as soon as there a problem you will be on here saying '' my $£%^"£ has failed how do I fix or replace it'' And of course this makes us all think these cars are always having problems. It is exactly the same on any forum.

OK - there have not been any issues with my car, not even the slightest of issues in the past 18 months. If fact in all of the years I have had it, it has been supremely reliable. THE most reliable and consistent vehicle I have ever owned in the past 54 years.

It is true of forums in many spheres of life, ISP forums are full of complaints about every ISP, car forums full of problems with the marque, energy company forums full of complaints about the company. This forum is no different - full of people with problems with their 75 and of course lots just here to try to help.

Ed3 · 20th December 2017, 19:05

Think of recalls where there are serious problems even life threatening problems with cars.

No recall could occur if the problems were ignored on the basis some cars worked OK

Rogue · 20th December 2017, 19:08

In the last few years i've owned my Cowley she has only ever let me down once and that for an under bonnet pump that was diagnosed within minutes of Trikey plugging his box of tricks into her and back on the road the following day with a minimum of fuss. It was on the original pump by the looks of things so nearly 18 years old before it let go. I've changed it over to leathers since i've owned it and absolutely no trace that there has ever had any water under the rears and the boot is completely dry and no signs there of previous leakage either. Last couple of mot's has only had minor advisories so nothing much to worry about there.
It's used daily for work and gets regular compliments from clients when i go to their houses and in a couple of cases requests to be taken for a spin.
Contrast that to the previous car which was a Mazda, generally renowned for their reliability. In 18 months she had a radiator rot out from the bottom, dead stat, both cv's needed replacing, constant issues with drivers door electrics and window, Maf died, rear anti roll bar detached and a pita leak into the boot as well as relatively uncomfortable seats and a soul less interior. This was from a car of half the age and less than half the mileage.
Considering how little i paid for her and how little it has cost to get her nice since i cannot think of anything else i would sooner get up in the morning and go to work in for anything even vaguely close to what mine has cost me and it's certainly the only car for a very long while that still puts a smile on my face when driving her and although sad to admit it's the only car that i always look back after i've parked up and walked away and still think it's a damn fine looking car.

SplendidChap · 20th December 2017, 19:08

"If we look at the postings on forums it is obvious that unless we get a better understanding and be clearer about what is happening to the decade plus old Rover 75 it will no longer be viable for most people."

My car's had a leaky sunroof, drenched carpets, leaky boot and light clusters. However all of these were fixed, at some expense, by the previous owner using knowledge gained from this forum. Now it doesn't leak at all even though it is parked outside.
These are just typical problems on older cars. Buy carefully or be prepared to spend some money or do some work yourself. Buy an old Toyota if you want ultimate reliability, but if you want a bit of quirky class then accept the issues that go with it.
As you can see this forum is an excellent digest of the issues with these cars, the advice is free, and it's run by amateurs who make nothing out of it. People with expertise will even help to assess a potential purchase. So really one should be grateful that such a resource exists at all rather than complain about it. We like these cars, warts and all, and help each other keep them on the road and improve them.

So to reply to the original post, I would say we have a very good understanding of the issues around running one of these decade plus old cars and that the criticism is unjustified.

Dallas · 20th December 2017, 19:26

Just to balance things out a little... a thread that is currently in discussion HERE...

patrolman pete · 20th December 2017, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed3

Time to wake up Mike? My car has not reached the end of it life but rather requires more work than many can do and many are experiencing the same.

https://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/for...=277079&page=2

Bendrick's post :-
Apparently so. It's pretty worrying

I had a previous Rover 75 for three years with no problem of this description ( didn't have a sunroof on that one) and had no idea that an electrical or water ingress problem could cause something as bizarre as this to happen.

Then we have the problem that in cold weather Rover 75 (and BMW) doors will not close. Many Rover 75 owners are older who may need to rush a loved one to hospital during the cold weather especially as of late we can struggle to get ambulances to even emergencies in the UK. The very obvious risk is unless we get to the bottom of "exactly why" doors suddenly will not close Rover 75 enthusiasts could find themselves trying to rush a loved one to hospital in freezing temperatures in a car where they suddenly find that cannot close the door.

Just pour boiling water on the lock area and be on your way !

MSS · 20th December 2017, 19:48

Ed3 - at 10+ years old, the car's usability and reliability is going to be determined largely by how it's been looked after (and hopefully, this will have determined the price paid).

Looking at your various posts, it feels like you have purchased a neglected car.

If you wish to buy a R75 CDT Connie SE with none of the problems that you mention, or indeed any other problems, I can offer you one. It will come with a warranty that if any mechanical or other issues develop before 1 Jan 2020, they will be fixed FOC to yourself. I expect the car to last until 18 years of age as a minimum with minimal further expenditure. A link follows.

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=134788

Make me an interesting offer over £6k.

20th December 2017, 19:08	#46
Rogue I really should get out more....... 75 CDT SE 160 Saloon Join Date: May 2017 Location: Thorpe St Andrew, Norwich Posts: 2,657 Thanks: 1,386 Thanked 1,096 Times in 774 Posts	In the last few years i've owned my Cowley she has only ever let me down once and that for an under bonnet pump that was diagnosed within minutes of Trikey plugging his box of tricks into her and back on the road the following day with a minimum of fuss. It was on the original pump by the looks of things so nearly 18 years old before it let go. I've changed it over to leathers since i've owned it and absolutely no trace that there has ever had any water under the rears and the boot is completely dry and no signs there of previous leakage either. Last couple of mot's has only had minor advisories so nothing much to worry about there. It's used daily for work and gets regular compliments from clients when i go to their houses and in a couple of cases requests to be taken for a spin. Contrast that to the previous car which was a Mazda, generally renowned for their reliability. In 18 months she had a radiator rot out from the bottom, dead stat, both cv's needed replacing, constant issues with drivers door electrics and window, Maf died, rear anti roll bar detached and a pita leak into the boot as well as relatively uncomfortable seats and a soul less interior. This was from a car of half the age and less than half the mileage. Considering how little i paid for her and how little it has cost to get her nice since i cannot think of anything else i would sooner get up in the morning and go to work in for anything even vaguely close to what mine has cost me and it's certainly the only car for a very long while that still puts a smile on my face when driving her and although sad to admit it's the only car that i always look back after i've parked up and walked away and still think it's a damn fine looking car. __________________ Glutton for punishment --- Previously ... 2.6 SD1 x 2, 3.5 SD1, 820S, 820Si x2, 216 Gsi, 220T saloon, 414, 45 1.4 x2 and now a Cowley 75 CDT

20th December 2017, 17:08	#42
championdaddy This is my second home Mg Zt 190 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: The FIRST Garden City....Letchworth. Posts: 6,778 Thanks: 1,243 Thanked 920 Times in 698 Posts	Well if the 75 and ZTs are no long useable........ I'm right stuffed then !!! It's my everyday car LOL

20th December 2017, 17:58	#43
Ed3 Loves to post Rover 75 CDTi saloon Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: UK Posts: 306 Thanks: 88 Thanked 29 Times in 26 Posts	Evidence:- Quote Bendrick's post :- Apparently so. It's pretty worrying

20th December 2017, 19:05	#45
Ed3 Loves to post Rover 75 CDTi saloon Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: UK Posts: 306 Thanks: 88 Thanked 29 Times in 26 Posts	Think of recalls where there are serious problems even life threatening problems with cars. No recall could occur if the problems were ignored on the basis some cars worked OK

20th December 2017, 19:08	#47
SplendidChap Avid contributor Rover 75 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Northampton Posts: 156 Thanks: 9 Thanked 81 Times in 53 Posts	"If we look at the postings on forums it is obvious that unless we get a better understanding and be clearer about what is happening to the decade plus old Rover 75 it will no longer be viable for most people." My car's had a leaky sunroof, drenched carpets, leaky boot and light clusters. However all of these were fixed, at some expense, by the previous owner using knowledge gained from this forum. Now it doesn't leak at all even though it is parked outside. These are just typical problems on older cars. Buy carefully or be prepared to spend some money or do some work yourself. Buy an old Toyota if you want ultimate reliability, but if you want a bit of quirky class then accept the issues that go with it. As you can see this forum is an excellent digest of the issues with these cars, the advice is free, and it's run by amateurs who make nothing out of it. People with expertise will even help to assess a potential purchase. So really one should be grateful that such a resource exists at all rather than complain about it. We like these cars, warts and all, and help each other keep them on the road and improve them. So to reply to the original post, I would say we have a very good understanding of the issues around running one of these decade plus old cars and that the criticism is unjustified.

20th December 2017, 19:26	#48
Dallas This is my second home 1979 Capri 1.6L, 1982 Capri 1.6L, 2016 Dacia Stepway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 8,595 Thanks: 3,496 Thanked 3,397 Times in 2,218 Posts	Just to balance things out a little... a thread that is currently in discussion HERE...

20th December 2017, 19:48	#50
MSS This is my second home Rover 75CDT, Jaguar XF-S 3.0V6, V'xhall Omega V6 Estate, Twintop 1.8VVT, Astra Estate and Corsa 1.2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7,085 Thanks: 283 Thanked 624 Times in 440 Posts	Ed3 - at 10+ years old, the car's usability and reliability is going to be determined largely by how it's been looked after (and hopefully, this will have determined the price paid). Looking at your various posts, it feels like you have purchased a neglected car. If you wish to buy a R75 CDT Connie SE with none of the problems that you mention, or indeed any other problems, I can offer you one. It will come with a warranty that if any mechanical or other issues develop before 1 Jan 2020, they will be fixed FOC to yourself. I expect the car to last until 18 years of age as a minimum with minimal further expenditure. A link follows. https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=134788 Make me an interesting offer over £6k.