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The concorde programme referred to in post 24 gave a different reason for the accident .
The early railway trains were said to be dangerous because the human body could not stand speeds above 30 mph . But its obviously not the speed that kills , its the sudden stopping . Oh well, back to the moongazing its a bit cloudy now . |
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EXACTLY!
can we not get this guy sacked? Seriously.. We are paying the wages of people like this, and stupid ideas like this is the best these morons can come up with? Same goes for the wolly who proposed we should retro fit our aircraft carriers with catalytic converters (at great expense to the tax payers I might add). Honestly! Why are we the people allowing these kind of idiots to work for us? Maybe if the people had more powers to call for the dismissal of these sorts of pillocks in positions of authority, maybe they would think twice every time they had one of their 'bright ideas'. I think they would think far more carefully about policy making if they knew (remembered) who they work for (us) and that we have the power to sack them if we don't like something. Now that would be a 'true' democracy, putting reasonable power back into the hands of the people. Quote:
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Maybe someone who is good with words on here could put together an intellectual and we'll written online petition calling for the resignation of the Pc Plod in question?
I'm sure if we spread the link to it all around the various car forums and social media sites we could amass an Un presidented response from the good people of this country!? Even if it didn't get him the sack, it might make somebody stand up and take notice that we the people are not amused and refuse to blindly roll over and be trampled on every time somebody with a little power thinks they can do or say what ever they like, regardless of how the people it affects feel about it! |
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Now the downside of being an instructor is, I have to keep my nose really clean so constantly watching speed. On the part 2 test we are allowed 6 minors, I picked up 2 in the same area, parked van and passing truck obscured the 20mph sign, luckily I was doing 24 mph due to traffic. It is easy to get a ticket. On part 2 driving ability, we have to perform every single manoeuvre flawlessly, many professional drivers including ex police have difficulty passing. What I say to knew drivers is simple, I'll teach you to drive and try to keep you and others alive, not how to pass a test, I will also tell you when you are properly ready for a test, not book a test just to extract money from you. While I agree 15 minors appear lenient however, a learner making a lot of minor errors is bound to have made one or two dangerous faults and fail. One thing that always amazes me, driving schools teach the emergency stop almost at the end of the coarse |
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Many more bad ones would fail too. I agree about the vaper but what else is he doing wrong as well? The point is that due to lack of anticipation, carelessness and thoughtlessness that man was more likely to cause an accident on that piece of road than the next person concentrating and doing 31 or 32 mph. There are lots of drivers, me included, who have let the odd bad habit creep in over the years. I know full well I don't shuffle the steering wheel when I go round the corners as I was taught to do, it's just not quick enough. I don't see any rally drivers using that technique! The thought of losing a licence and being unable to work, might make people take note and knuckle down with a few refresher lessons etc. A grace period of a few weeks to get a pass could be an option. But the main point is to improve driving standards and without enough traffic police, or police in general to catch the bad drivers and people with deffective cars nothing is going to change. More so called safety cameras won't catch anyone driving without due care and attention, unless it meant they were speeding too! In my work a self employed electrician I get checked every year by the competent person scheme I'm a member of to see if I am up to date with current regulations, have appropriate documents, health and safety, comply to current building standards and undertake work accordingly etc. If I don't comply, I get the withdrawn from the scheme. A similar system is in place for other building trades, Gas safe, Fensa and so on. Once people have a licence anybody who drives, including if it is their business, can carry on almost indefinitely without any further checks on their ability to do the driving. It is madness to focus on excess speed as the cause of all things evil on the roads. |
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Andy with a screwdriver: There are lots of drivers, me included, who have let the odd bad habit creep in over the years. I know full well I don't shuffle the steering wheel when I go round the corners as I was taught to do, it's just not quick enough. I don't see any rally drivers using that technique!
------ Hi, Crossing hands etc is no longer a test fail within reason provided you have good control of the steering. Pull push is really for very inexperienced drivers to get used to steering. |
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That upstart copper is unlikely to get his wishes because the majority of drivers would be caught and kick up a fuss. However he is technically correct - 30mph (or whatever the speed limit is) is the law and if you break the law then you can't complain about being fined for it; though I admit it is soooo easy to do so inadvertently, but then we don't give keeping to the limits much thought because we know if we're only breaking the law a little bit then they probably won't come after us.
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