Can Xenons be fitted? - Page 2

Yella Fella · 24th July 2018, 07:20

Thanks for all the replies.

See what I mean? There are conflicting views on whether they can be fitted. Were Xenons have been fitted, some cars pass an MOT and some fail. I guess its a chance you take.

1. Two questions.
The self leveling device. I assume this is fitted within the MGR Xenon headlight unit and not external?

2. Why does headlight washers need to be fitted?

Lord of Hog · 24th July 2018, 07:39

It looks like both the older and newer blurb say that self levellers and washers must work IF FITTED. There's no reference to any requirement to have them ... unless that's hidden away in another bit that we haven't seen.

stocktake · 24th July 2018, 08:07

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Originally Posted by Yella Fella

Thanks for all the replies.

See what I mean? There are conflicting views on whether they can be fitted. Were Xenons have been fitted, some cars pass an MOT and some fail. I guess its a chance you take.

1. Two questions.
The self leveling device. I assume this is fitted within the MGR Xenon headlight unit and not external?

2. Why does headlight washers need to be fitted?

The self leveling devices are fitted to one of the front arms and one of the rear arms, these then connect to a three core cable that is run up to and works with the correct LSM ( The original has the manual wheel on.) then it all requires setting up with the T4 I believe.

Rev Jules · 24th July 2018, 08:22

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Originally Posted by Phil-T4

But that is 6 years old, current MOT regs say..
"Vehicles with high intensity discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with a suspension or headlamp self-levelling system. If these systems have been fitted, they must work." Otherwise manual adjusters are ok (as long as they work)

Headlight washers are only tested on vehicles after 01/09/2009.

If i got one in with retrofit factory Xenons and all worked ok i wouldn't fail it

Hi Phil.
are you saying if I have headlight washers fitted on my 2003 and they don't work its a pass

Rev

stocktake · 24th July 2018, 08:27

It's quite the opposite Rev. They may be fitted and if they are fitted they must work

Edit: In light of Rick's answer below I stand corrected to the fact. Absolutely gobsmacked though.

Rick-sta · 24th July 2018, 09:35

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Originally Posted by Rev Jules

Hi Phil.
are you saying if I have headlight washers fitted on my 2003 and they don't work its a pass

Rev

Yes that is correct. Under the latest MOT rules and criteria, only cars from 01/09/2009 or newer are tested for working headlamp washers IF fitted. Our cars should never ever fail on headlamp washers even if they're not working.

The rules around self leveling headlights and headlamp washers hasn't changed, it's still the same. Selflessness and headlamp washers can only be tested to check they're working IF fitted, there is no requirement to have them fitted if you have Xenon headlamps.

Graham1961 · 24th July 2018, 19:32

Interesting points.

I have a facelift 75 with projector headlights, but i have a pair of Xenons (facelift) to retro fit at sometime.

Would i need to fit self-leveling adjusters or is the manual wheel compatible ?

suzublu · 24th July 2018, 20:26

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Originally Posted by Graham1961

Interesting points.

I have a facelift 75 with projector headlights, but i have a pair of Xenons (facelift) to retro fit at sometime.

Would i need to fit self-leveling adjusters or is the manual wheel compatible ?

You'll be fine Graham, as stated, only vehicles manufactured after 2009 need self levelling, I've had mine fitted for 8 years without a problem

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Yella Fella Nemo Me Impune Lacessit None at the moment Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow's HMP Barlinnie, 'A' Hall, 2nd Flat Posts: 5,192 Thanks: 493 Thanked 1,094 Times in 666 Posts	Thanks for all the replies. See what I mean? There are conflicting views on whether they can be fitted. Were Xenons have been fitted, some cars pass an MOT and some fail. I guess its a chance you take. 1. Two questions. The self leveling device. I assume this is fitted within the MGR Xenon headlight unit and not external? 2. Why does headlight washers need to be fitted? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Last edited by Yella Fella; 24th July 2018 at 07:23..

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Lord of Hog Gets stuck in Rover 75 2.5 V6 in Wedgwood Blue Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Felbridge, East Grinstead Posts: 982 Thanks: 250 Thanked 294 Times in 206 Posts	It looks like both the older and newer blurb say that self levellers and washers must work IF FITTED. There's no reference to any requirement to have them ... unless that's hidden away in another bit that we haven't seen. __________________ Conformity is not morality. Consensus is not truth.

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stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,587 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	It's quite the opposite Rev. They may be fitted and if they are fitted they must work Edit: In light of Rick's answer below I stand corrected to the fact. Absolutely gobsmacked though. __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident Last edited by stocktake; 24th July 2018 at 10:20..

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Graham1961 Moderator / RS East Scotland Rover 75 1.8 Conn Se saloon Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Berwick, East Lothian Posts: 4,738 Thanks: 4,143 Thanked 753 Times in 563 Posts	Interesting points. I have a facelift 75 with projector headlights, but i have a pair of Xenons (facelift) to retro fit at sometime. Would i need to fit self-leveling adjusters or is the manual wheel compatible ? __________________ Graham.