Brake Pipes

stux99 · 4th May 2010, 16:24

After failing MOT on one corroded brake pipe (front nearside) I am having trouble getting new so decided to make my own.
Any advice? I see kits are available that should fit the bill.

Stu

T-Cut · 4th May 2010, 16:44

Definitely do not buy the OEM pipes. They last a couple of years then corrode. Whether you make up your own or have a garage do it, use Kunifer pipe. It will outlast the car. It's not necessary to route the rear pipework over the tank. If that's difficult, just route it around the outside and ensure the pipes are well supported with clips. You can get clips separately. Don't know much about kits, but buying Kunifer in rolls is cheap and you can get the flaring gizmos anywhere. Double check the style of the connecting unions if DIY.

TC

stux99 · 4th May 2010, 16:48

Thanks for the quick reply T-Cut, Kunifer was recommended to me.
Time to get started me thinks.

Thanks again.

Kandyman · 4th May 2010, 16:59

I feel a "how to" coming with pictures

A few cars have failed with rusty pipes so any help or tips on how to DIY would be great.

Dallas · 4th May 2010, 18:53

Yes a How To would be great

my pipes have failed MOT (not on corrosion) but not being supprted (clipped in). They must have been replaced with previous owner but not done properly.

Being done this Thursday, Garage cant quote on labour time as they dont know how long the job will take

they say they might need to drop the tank.??

Departed · 4th May 2010, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallas

Yes a How To would be great

my pipes have failed MOT (not on corrosion) but not being supprted (clipped in). They must have been replaced with previous owner but not done properly.

Being done this Thursday, Garage cant quote on labour time as they dont know how long the job will take

they say they might need to drop the tank.??

Interesting, as there are no clips on the bit above the tank.

All clips are accessible. Where are they saying the clips are missing?

Dallas · 4th May 2010, 19:36

aaaahhh! Thanks Duncan

............. that's interesting, they say they may need to drop the tank as they cant see any clips

that would now make sense (THANKS).

I think they are honest enough

I just think they dont know much about the 75 as it shows.

I now don't have any confidence in them if this is the case, they are doing the rear spring and front anti roll bar ball joint on Thursday. They say they may need to re-shape the pipes and re-fit up into clips where ever they are.

Does anyone have a BLUE PRINT or diagram of the clips where they are located and how many, comes to something when you have to help a garage fix ya car.

Sorry to hi-jack the thread.

Departed · 4th May 2010, 19:43

Right, so it gets interesting.

I just visited the rimmerbros website to find the page that has those pipes, and there are clips shown.

Now my car has no clips (yes I was surprised) and when I consulted EPC when I replaced my pipes, none were listed for that area. Mine is a Cowley car (built Nov 99) and I replaced the pipes myself and had a good look for any sign of clips as I was worried about dropping the tank, too.

So I suspect that they were added later perhaps after complaints of rattles from that area.

I wonder if anyone who breaks cars has noticed this?

Dallas · 4th May 2010, 19:54

So yours is cowley built and so is mine (2000 'W') registered April.

.................. this diagram on Rimmers, does is show my model not having clips?
this would be so great to tell the garage that my beauty was not built with the clips anyway.

Now my worry is that the garage might damaged something when playing around finding or not finding any clips.

Thanks for all your help Duncan and anyone else's who would like to add anything so I can go into the Garage tomorrow and explain how it is.

EDIT! Where do your pipes go at the tank Duncan, around or ????????? got a pic....

Departed · 4th May 2010, 21:34

My pipes are pretty much as in this picture:

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID001567

but the three clips that are at the top on the back pipe (one on the RH, two on the left) were not there. They are the number ones at the top of the page. The only ones at the back were the last two, right close to the ends.

4th May 2010, 16:24	#1
stux99 Posted a thing or two MG3/TF Spark/ MGTF Steppy/ MG GS Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wincanton,Somerset Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 6 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	HELP!! Brake Pipes After failing MOT on one corroded brake pipe (front nearside) I am having trouble getting new so decided to make my own. Any advice? I see kits are available that should fit the bill. Stu __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Last edited by stux99; 7th May 2010 at 06:15..

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stux99 Posted a thing or two MG3/TF Spark/ MGTF Steppy/ MG GS Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wincanton,Somerset Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 6 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	Thanks for the quick reply T-Cut, Kunifer was recommended to me. Time to get started me thinks. Thanks again. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

4th May 2010, 19:54	#9
Dallas This is my second home 1979 Capri 1.6L, 1982 Capri 1.6L, 2016 Dacia Stepway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 8,595 Thanks: 3,496 Thanked 3,397 Times in 2,218 Posts	So yours is cowley built and so is mine (2000 'W') registered April. .................. this diagram on Rimmers, does is show my model not having clips? this would be so great to tell the garage that my beauty was not built with the clips anyway. Now my worry is that the garage might damaged something when playing around finding or not finding any clips. Thanks for all your help Duncan and anyone else's who would like to add anything so I can go into the Garage tomorrow and explain how it is. EDIT! Where do your pipes go at the tank Duncan, around or ????????? got a pic.... Last edited by Dallas; 4th May 2010 at 19:57..

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4th May 2010, 16:44	#2
T-Cut This is my second home Rover75 and Mreg Corsa. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin) Posts: 21,751 Thanks: 341 Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts	Definitely do not buy the OEM pipes. They last a couple of years then corrode. Whether you make up your own or have a garage do it, use Kunifer pipe. It will outlast the car. It's not necessary to route the rear pipework over the tank. If that's difficult, just route it around the outside and ensure the pipes are well supported with clips. You can get clips separately. Don't know much about kits, but buying Kunifer in rolls is cheap and you can get the flaring gizmos anywhere. Double check the style of the connecting unions if DIY. TC

4th May 2010, 16:59	#4
Kandyman Banned ROVER 75 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE Limousine 2004 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Welling Posts: 10,995 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I feel a "how to" coming with pictures A few cars have failed with rusty pipes so any help or tips on how to DIY would be great.

4th May 2010, 18:53	#5
Dallas This is my second home 1979 Capri 1.6L, 1982 Capri 1.6L, 2016 Dacia Stepway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 8,595 Thanks: 3,496 Thanked 3,397 Times in 2,218 Posts	Yes a How To would be great my pipes have failed MOT (not on corrosion) but not being supprted (clipped in). They must have been replaced with previous owner but not done properly. Being done this Thursday, Garage cant quote on labour time as they dont know how long the job will take they say they might need to drop the tank.??

4th May 2010, 19:36	#7
Dallas This is my second home 1979 Capri 1.6L, 1982 Capri 1.6L, 2016 Dacia Stepway Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 8,595 Thanks: 3,496 Thanked 3,397 Times in 2,218 Posts	aaaahhh! Thanks Duncan ............. that's interesting, they say they may need to drop the tank as they cant see any clips that would now make sense (THANKS). I think they are honest enough I just think they dont know much about the 75 as it shows. I now don't have any confidence in them if this is the case, they are doing the rear spring and front anti roll bar ball joint on Thursday. They say they may need to re-shape the pipes and re-fit up into clips where ever they are. Does anyone have a BLUE PRINT or diagram of the clips where they are located and how many, comes to something when you have to help a garage fix ya car. Sorry to hi-jack the thread.

4th May 2010, 19:43	#8
Departed Retired -- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: -- Posts: 3,785 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Right, so it gets interesting. I just visited the rimmerbros website to find the page that has those pipes, and there are clips shown. Now my car has no clips (yes I was surprised) and when I consulted EPC when I replaced my pipes, none were listed for that area. Mine is a Cowley car (built Nov 99) and I replaced the pipes myself and had a good look for any sign of clips as I was worried about dropping the tank, too. So I suspect that they were added later perhaps after complaints of rattles from that area. I wonder if anyone who breaks cars has noticed this?

4th May 2010, 21:34	#10
Departed Retired -- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: -- Posts: 3,785 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	My pipes are pretty much as in this picture: http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID001567 but the three clips that are at the top on the back pipe (one on the RH, two on the left) were not there. They are the number ones at the top of the page. The only ones at the back were the last two, right close to the ends.