ABS AGAIN - that chesnut!

Dawn · 20th July 2018, 16:27

Okay, so on the way home from East Kirkby Bones threw the ABS light. I knew it was front driver's wheel as the speedo and fuel went as well. I had a sensor so I got a mobile guy to come out and do it this afternoon. He said the wire on the old one was broke, but then kept saying the new sensor wouldn't go all the way in. When I started it up the light went out until I tried driving her, now its back on. He says it must be the bearing but I am not convinced he has the sensor in right. he says he can't get it in or out now and left.

Could it still be the sensor? I don't know anyone reputable close by except the Xpart dealer at Riddings which will charge a fortune and only work the same hours as me, but I don't want to keep paying ordinary garages and end up with an even bigger bill, and its a bit far to take to Andy (and I am sure he never wants to see her again!)

If there is time I will try and get a T4 at tomorrow's Nano, but not sure that will help as I know which one it is!

slovcan · 20th July 2018, 21:17

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Originally Posted by Dawn

Okay, so on the way home from East Kirkby Bones threw the ABS light. I knew it was front driver's wheel as the speedo and fuel went as well. I had a sensor so I got a mobile guy to come out and do it this afternoon. He said the wire on the old one was broke, but then kept saying the new sensor wouldn't go all the way in. When I started it up the light went out until I tried driving her, now its back on. He says it must be the bearing but I am not convinced he has the sensor in right. he says he can't get it in or out now and left.

Could it still be the sensor? I don't know anyone reputable close by except the Xpart dealer at Riddings which will charge a fortune and only work the same hours as me, but I don't want to keep paying ordinary garages and end up with an even bigger bill, and its a bit far to take to Andy (and I am sure he never wants to see her again!)

If there is time I will try and get a T4 at tomorrow's Nano, but not sure that will help as I know which one it is!

Dawn, you have been getting beat up lately. It should start coming good for you anytime now. I expect there will be people at the nano meet who have more ABS sensor experience than the mobile guy (who I would not call again). Hopefully one of them can pull that sensor out and re-install it properly. May be just the usual rust buildup under the mounting flange that needed to cleaned up. They are also a tight fit in the hole, so I think some guys clean out that hole of dirt and rust (making it fractionally bigger) so the new sensor can more easily fit all the way in. Maybe bring the original sensor with the broken wire just in case (if that was all that was wrong with it).

Cheers,
Glenn

Dawn · 20th July 2018, 21:41

There's nothing left of the original sensor. It broke up.

BillyMG · 21st July 2018, 18:24

Perhaps he left some of the broken up sensor in the hole.

David Lawrence · 22nd July 2018, 06:23

Dawn, if you have bought an after market sensor, sometimes they dont go all the way in. I have a thread somewhere here about my experiences. My aftermarket one stood away from the hub slightly, and would bolt in tight, and work ok for a few miles, then the light would come back on. Each time i found the sensor had lifted out of the hole slightly.

The only thing that worked was a genuine mgr sensor. Expensive, but it worked.

Dawn · 22nd July 2018, 14:11

Yes it was aftermarket, but he's hammered it in so tight it won't come out.

Need to find someone local who knows what they're doing, and that is like asking for gold.

HarryM1BYT · 22nd July 2018, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Dawn

Yes it was aftermarket, but he's hammered it in so tight it won't come out.

Need to find someone local who knows what they're doing, and that is like asking for gold.

He obviously didn't have much of a clue what he was doing. Light out, then coming on when you move, suggests the sensor was basically fine and maybe all it needed was someone to fit it properly rather than with brute force. The hole should have been cleaned out carefully with a drill, with a vac sucking dirt out all the time. They should push in and pull out fairly easily.

Now you need to find some way to get it back out, in one piece which might not be easy. You might try soaking in releasing fluid and trying to turn it with some grips and hope.

Some have reported the aftermarket ones don't penetrate into the hole far enough, giving your type of symptoms - and have found they can get them to work by trimming the fixing lug back a bit so they go deeper.

Dawn · 22nd July 2018, 20:16

This sensor is definitely had it now anyway. I don't know who to trust with this kind of "little" job any more. It's like when I took my V6 for an oil change and they rang me to say could I take it back another day because they couldn't find the sump plug. It's beyond a joke! I couldn't have made a bigger hash of it myself! I may have to bite the bullet and go to the Xpart place near Alfreton or Austin's. I think they are the closest that know these cars, but they charge a fortune.

stocktake · 22nd July 2018, 20:20

lates is only 51 miles away

squire · 22nd July 2018, 20:33

Terry Shaw, TS Autos in Stourbridge, a bit of a trek but at least it'll be done right. A few people have used Terry's services and been very pleased, I can vouch that he knows our cars inside out.

Martyn.

P.S. Lates also highly recommended.

20th July 2018, 16:27	#1
Dawn I really should get out more....... MG ZT 180+ auto Join Date: May 2016 Location: Ilkeston, Derbys Posts: 2,743 Thanks: 285 Thanked 1,128 Times in 504 Posts	ABS AGAIN - that chesnut! Okay, so on the way home from East Kirkby Bones threw the ABS light. I knew it was front driver's wheel as the speedo and fuel went as well. I had a sensor so I got a mobile guy to come out and do it this afternoon. He said the wire on the old one was broke, but then kept saying the new sensor wouldn't go all the way in. When I started it up the light went out until I tried driving her, now its back on. He says it must be the bearing but I am not convinced he has the sensor in right. he says he can't get it in or out now and left. Could it still be the sensor? I don't know anyone reputable close by except the Xpart dealer at Riddings which will charge a fortune and only work the same hours as me, but I don't want to keep paying ordinary garages and end up with an even bigger bill, and its a bit far to take to Andy (and I am sure he never wants to see her again!) If there is time I will try and get a T4 at tomorrow's Nano, but not sure that will help as I know which one it is!

22nd July 2018, 20:20	#9
stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,587 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	lates is only 51 miles away __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident

22nd July 2018, 20:33	#10
squire Posted a thing or two MGB GT, 2 Morris Minor Travellers Join Date: May 2011 Location: Bilston Posts: 1,661 Thanks: 1,610 Thanked 497 Times in 370 Posts	Terry Shaw, TS Autos in Stourbridge, a bit of a trek but at least it'll be done right. A few people have used Terry's services and been very pleased, I can vouch that he knows our cars inside out. Martyn. P.S. Lates also highly recommended. Last edited by squire; 22nd July 2018 at 20:35.. Reason: Addition

20th July 2018, 21:41	#3
Dawn I really should get out more....... MG ZT 180+ auto Join Date: May 2016 Location: Ilkeston, Derbys Posts: 2,743 Thanks: 285 Thanked 1,128 Times in 504 Posts	There's nothing left of the original sensor. It broke up.

21st July 2018, 18:24	#4
BillyMG Gets stuck in MG ZT 2.5 V6 Auto Tourer (Elizabeth) / MG ZT CDTI (Farage) Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: St Helens Posts: 688 Thanks: 339 Thanked 109 Times in 89 Posts	Perhaps he left some of the broken up sensor in the hole.

22nd July 2018, 06:23	#5
David Lawrence This is my second home Rover 75 CDT-2001 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wrexham, North Wales Posts: 3,606 Thanks: 195 Thanked 606 Times in 501 Posts	Dawn, if you have bought an after market sensor, sometimes they dont go all the way in. I have a thread somewhere here about my experiences. My aftermarket one stood away from the hub slightly, and would bolt in tight, and work ok for a few miles, then the light would come back on. Each time i found the sensor had lifted out of the hole slightly. The only thing that worked was a genuine mgr sensor. Expensive, but it worked.

22nd July 2018, 14:11	#6
Dawn I really should get out more....... MG ZT 180+ auto Join Date: May 2016 Location: Ilkeston, Derbys Posts: 2,743 Thanks: 285 Thanked 1,128 Times in 504 Posts	Yes it was aftermarket, but he's hammered it in so tight it won't come out. Need to find someone local who knows what they're doing, and that is like asking for gold.

22nd July 2018, 20:16	#8
Dawn I really should get out more....... MG ZT 180+ auto Join Date: May 2016 Location: Ilkeston, Derbys Posts: 2,743 Thanks: 285 Thanked 1,128 Times in 504 Posts	This sensor is definitely had it now anyway. I don't know who to trust with this kind of "little" job any more. It's like when I took my V6 for an oil change and they rang me to say could I take it back another day because they couldn't find the sump plug. It's beyond a joke! I couldn't have made a bigger hash of it myself! I may have to bite the bullet and go to the Xpart place near Alfreton or Austin's. I think they are the closest that know these cars, but they charge a fortune.