Mr. Bates v Post Office

[sln8458]

Watched the last episode last night.
My wife was supprised that ANYONE would have access to the individual accounts, whereas I wasn't.
Quite clearly Fujitsu had supplied a bag of balls and the postoffice NEVER tested it properly.
For me there should be procecutions for corporate manslaughter on behalf of those that took their own lives, both from the postoffice and fujitsu.


Then there is the issue of compensation, why is this NOT been paid out?? The gov' has agreed to it, but are stalling on paying it out.


I have signed this petition:
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitio...ource=homepage

and this one:
https://www.change.org/p/biztradegov...accountability

[VVC-Geeza]

What I can't understand is why a whole bunch of post masters would all suddenly become
dishonest . Surely someone in authority must have asked the question of whether there is a common denominator to all of this. There was,the introduction of Horizon. Or am I missing something.

[stevestrat]

Originally Posted by VVC-Geeza

Surely someone in authority must have asked the question of whether there is a common denominator to all of this. There was,the introduction of Horizon. Or am I missing something.

Don’t forget when this started computers were the wonder machines of the age and (everyone thought) they couldn’t make mistakes. That and your average Post Office manager probably had about as much understanding of nuclear physics as they did about computers. There would be a point where the connection was made but rather than admit the problem and face the consequences the post office went into denial and carried on blaming the individuals.

[MissMoppet]

The PO's main thrust was that "you're the only one" but there was, and maybe still is, a Federation of Sub Postmasters. They should have been collecting complaints and circulating, BUT here's the rub, the Fed was entirely in the pockets of the PO and were not remotely independent. If they had been doing their job then surely this would have been quickly nipped in the bud years before it got out of hand?

I see the press are all for removing her CBE! That's an irrelevant bauble: we want to see her in the dock and then in an appropriate place. Together with her predecessor Adam Crozier, another overpaid CEO, who was probably instrumental in starting this mayhem. And pops up on all sorts of other PLCs.

Can't wait for The Revolution . . .

[VVC-Geeza]

Originally Posted by stevestrat

Don’t forget when this started computers were the wonder machines of the age and (everyone thought) they couldn’t make mistakes. That and your average Post Office manager probably had about as much understanding of nuclear physics as they did about computers. There would be a point where the connection was made but rather than admit the problem and face the consequences the post office went into denial and carried on blaming the individuals.

Still find it incredible that word didn't get round that large numbers of previously 'honest'
Post masters/mistresses were suddenly being accused of stealing money and nobody found this suspicious. You really can't make it up that 700 of them suddenly became dishonest without explanation.

[macafee2]

Could this drama documentary finally get the convictions overturned?

macafee2

[The Rovering Member]

Originally Posted by VVC-Geeza

What I can't understand is why a whole bunch of post masters would all suddenly become
dishonest . Surely someone in authority must have asked the question of whether there is a common denominator to all of this. There was,the introduction of Horizon. Or am I missing something.

Apparently there was one lady who did but she found herself quickly disassociated from the organisation.

[stevestrat]

Paula Vennells has announced she is handling her CBE back with immediate effect.

[macafee2]

Originally Posted by stevestrat

Paula Vennells has announced she is handling her CBE back with immediate effect.

Before it is taken from her? There must be a reason for that and I doubt it is because she feels she does not deserve it.

macafee2

[stevestrat]

Originally Posted by macafee2

Before it is taken from her? There must be a reason for that and I doubt it is because she feels she does not deserve it.

macafee2

Giving in to pressure springs to mind.