Banning cars altogether

[robbrooks]

The thin end of the wedge for Birmingham! Other city's will follow no doubt!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-51088499
Rob

[coolguy]

...and they wonder why the High Streets are dying/dead!

[Lancpudn]

I read today that they're looking into closing the loophole which lets the car regenerate/clean the DPF Nissan Qashqai & Opel/Vauxhall being the worst offenders. https://www.transportenvironment.org...l-levels-tests

[steve-45]

The first thing that they need to do is bring down the cost of public transport.

And as for 20 MPH speed limits, my mother’s road has had a 20 MPH limit for a number of years and it’s still a racetrack as there is never anyone around to enforce it !

[bl52krz]

Originally Posted by steve-45

The first thing that they need to do is bring down the cost of public transport.

And as for 20 MPH speed limits, my mother’s road has had a 20 MPH limit for a number of years and it’s still a racetrack as there is never anyone around to enforce it !

20 mph. That’s a laugh as you say. We have a 20 mph on all our area. We live in a road with a junior middle school .20 mph limit is broken by about 20-40 mph all the time. It has turned into a rat run over the last 10 years because drivers don’t want to use the main road because of the amount of traffic.

[Nobby]

Originally Posted by Lancpudn

I read today that they're looking into closing the loophole which lets the car regenerate/clean the DPF Nissan Qashqai & Opel/Vauxhall being the worst offenders. https://www.transportenvironment.org...l-levels-tests

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Interesting it says DPF regen/filter cleaning is impacting urban areas but my understanding is that generally for full DPF regeneration its normal to have to drive at a constant 50mph or faster for at least 10 minutes so outside of a good dual carriageway or nearby motorway cant see many people cleaning filters up and down the high street . But then again are new diesels really dirty ......... the Germans think not (well they would wouldn't they ) https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-ne...o-new-research

[Robson Rover Repair]

Said before and said it again.

Lpg.

All taxis, vans under 3.5 tons and buses should be lpg.

We had the technology after World War 2 when lpg cars where common due to fuel shortages.



LPG produces 33% less CO2 emissions than petrol and 45% less CO2 than diesel. LPG vehicles produce up to 82% less Nitrogen Oxide pollutants than petrol and 99% better than diesel.

Instead of chasing all this electric car rubbish which just shunts the emissions else where never mind the environmental cost of getting the battery components out of the soil and then chemically refining them, lpg is far better being naturally occurring and also a by product of petroleum production.

I'm planning exactly that, all my vehicles will be lpg going forward, even if I have to diy the kits and get them certified.

You can get lpg delivered to home also and pay the vat on it before delivery. A 1500 litre tank buried in your back garden with a hose to connect your vehicles to.

My plan at least. Imo lpg cars will become very saught after soon. They need to push this and get them under emission exemption again.

[victorgte]

Originally Posted by Colin_NI

Said before and said it again.

Lpg.

All taxis, vans under 3.5 tons and buses should be lpg.

We had the technology after World War 2 when lpg cars where common due to fuel shortages.



LPG produces 33% less CO2 emissions than petrol and 45% less CO2 than diesel. LPG vehicles produce up to 82% less Nitrogen Oxide pollutants than petrol and 99% better than diesel.

Instead of chasing all this electric car rubbish which just shunts the emissions else where never mind the environmental cost of getting the battery components out of the soil and then chemically refining them, lpg is far better being naturally occurring and also a by product of petroleum production.

I'm planning exactly that, all my vehicles will be lpg going forward, even if I have to diy the kits and get them certified.

You can get lpg delivered to home also and pay the vat on it before delivery. A 1500 litre tank buried in your back garden with a hose to connect your vehicles to.

My plan at least. Imo lpg cars will become very saught after soon. They need to push this and get them under emission exemption again.

Having had 2 LPG cars I would do it again. Not just to convert a thirsty V8 but a modern petrol car for everyday use. It causes less wear on the engine too. Cleaner internal component making it more reliable.
I’m staggered at how it has not caught on. Vauxhall tried dual fuel cars in the naughties but all the taxi drivers bought them and ran up 300k miles before scrapping them.

[Lancpudn]

Originally Posted by Nobby

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Interesting it says DPF regen/filter cleaning is impacting urban areas but my understanding is that generally for full DPF regeneration its normal to have to drive at a constant 50mph or faster for at least 10 minutes so outside of a good dual carriageway or nearby motorway cant see many people cleaning filters up and down the high street . But then again are new diesels really dirty ......... the Germans think not (well they would wouldn't they ) https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-ne...o-new-research

The high street sensors must be picking up the last minute "Italian tune ups" prior to taking it in for an MOT


LOL Yeah the Germans would say that as they're facing a carmageddon of job losses.
4100 announced today.

[Lancpudn]

Three more latest local authority announcements today and they're all different.


Cardiff https://airqualitynews.com/2020/01/1...lean-air-plan/


Edinburgh https://www.transport-network.co.uk/...wer-cars/16386


Newcastle https://www.transport-network.co.uk/...-Breathe/16389