Is this an early 75 V8?

colinjyates · 18th November 2006, 22:29

Just looking on 'the bay' and spotted this odd looking V8.

It appears to have the MK1 rear bumper and old style steering wheel; to name a few - not mentioning the dodgy side photo of a mk1 front end! then the front end has remarkbaly changed in the other pic.

Is this a lash up or a an early 75 v8?

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tourerfogey · 18th November 2006, 23:52

Are Dealers allowed to say this?

'PLEASE NOTE: The car is sold as seen and as such comes with no warranty.'

Bolin · 19th November 2006, 00:00

Hmm, it certainly seems a bit dodgy, doesn't it?

It has the quad exhaust of the V8 but this could be added later - I think Alex did this with his car, judging from some of the pics on .org.

The interior is also a bit odd, Ash console/glovebox trim with the old style seats was not available as far as I know, could it be a monogram option? The gear selector doesn't look like the version the 75 V8 came with, so it could be an earlier prototype version. There is a V8 badge on the dash below the clock.

But the bumpers are the oddest bit. Maybe it was a prototype and was built with the earlier bumpers, and then the seller changed the front end to make it look like a typical 75 V8. Maybe he thought people would not believe it was a genuine V8 without a Premium grille. It's possible to do this, see again Alex's car. But posting pics of two different front ends when trying to sell what is presumably one car......strange!!

Keith · 19th November 2006, 07:42

It is a proper V8 not entirely sure of it's history though Brown and Gammons have had it listed on their site for a while, I forgot about it and I suppose I should have taken a look at it before I bought my Black one

I think they had it on sale a the MG event at Silverstone alongside the fiat Diesel powered 75 etc

Definitely a MK1 rear bumper no doubt Tim or the Mathews brothers will be along shortly with full details

I Will move this to the V8 forum later

anglaslt · 19th November 2006, 09:27

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Originally Posted by Keith

It is a proper V8 not entirely sure of it's history though Brown and Gammons have had it listed on their site for a while, I forgot about it and I suppose I should have taken a look at it before I bought my Black one

I think they had it on sale a the MG event at Silverstone alongside the fiat Diesel powered 75 etc

Definitely a MK1 rear bumper no doubt Tim or the Mathews brothers will be along shortly with full details

I Will move this to the V8 forum later

Good morning Keith! Can't tell you much about it except it's an early 75 V8 development car of some sort. I've seen it B&G and it's a bit of a mix. As you say a Mk I bumper but with a Mk II boot lid. Do my eyes deceive me or are the two fronts in the photos different? They had two similar cars, one LHD, so maybe they mixed up the pics. Well spotted the V6 auto change!
I guess everything has a price so will be interesting to watch.
Tom

colinjyates · 19th November 2006, 09:43

I wonder if this vehicle has a V8 chassis number sequence?

Lates · 19th November 2006, 10:03

Anybody thought about bombing them with a few questions about its legitimacy ? Vin number, which front end does it now have,do you have matching bumpers ?

Alex30013k · 19th November 2006, 10:33

To me this looks like a Mg ZT V8 development car,

But Its an AUTO - You dont get Zt Auto V8's

Looks like some one had retro fitted a V8 Bumper As its not been painted propley as the black vents under the indicators are painted in red

Then fitted all the 75 stuff like wood dash and 75 markings - Mk1 and MK2

Oh and a cream colour steering wheel on a Ash grey dash?

Also the gear gator is not colour coded in wood as its still black.

And on the V8 Rover 75 you could not see the zorts on here you can

Also not forgetting its registered as an MG

Manufacturer MG
Model ZT SE 260 V8
Body type 4 DOOR SALOON
Colour RED
Fuel type PETROL
Date manufactured 11 February 2004

anglaslt · 19th November 2006, 12:29

I think more probably it's a 75 V8 development car, based on a ZT 260. It has a ZT 260 bumper with heat shields but has the 75 V8 exhaust system and auto box. The gear gaiter is probably pre-production.
It was not long after this car was registered that MGR announced the launch of the 75 V8 at Geneva.
IIRC the car was one of a batch of cars that B&G bought from MGR, including the (in)famous JTD diesel and a very nice LHD bi-fuel car.
It has a few oddities but at the right price maybe not a bad car.
My main concern would be having a Rover registered as an MG.
Tom

Pete · 19th November 2006, 14:51

I think Rincewind has commented on this motor. It's a bitsa special and if the same he is of the opinion that it should have been destroyed, not let out for sale. In one way it's good that is wasn't but a potential buyer may be caught out with this one if they are not careful.

It'd be much better if a MK1 nose was stuck on it though, at least the bodywork would all match up.

18th November 2006, 22:29	#1
colinjyates Avid contributor ROVER 75 SALOON Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ascot Posts: 123 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Is this an early 75 V8? Just looking on 'the bay' and spotted this odd looking V8. It appears to have the MK1 rear bumper and old style steering wheel; to name a few - not mentioning the dodgy side photo of a mk1 front end! then the front end has remarkbaly changed in the other pic. Is this a lash up or a an early 75 v8? Item No. 250050959010 - soory i'm rubbish at adding links!! Link Added http://tinyurl.com/yzn9rq Last edited by Kandyman; 18th November 2006 at 23:07.. Reason: Link added for you :)

19th November 2006, 00:00	#3
Bolin This is my second home Rover 75 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE 4dr manual Wedgewood Blue 2 04-05/06/2001 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: N.E. Hampshire Posts: 4,617 Thanks: 289 Thanked 308 Times in 243 Posts	Hmm, it certainly seems a bit dodgy, doesn't it? It has the quad exhaust of the V8 but this could be added later - I think Alex did this with his car, judging from some of the pics on .org. The interior is also a bit odd, Ash console/glovebox trim with the old style seats was not available as far as I know, could it be a monogram option? The gear selector doesn't look like the version the 75 V8 came with, so it could be an earlier prototype version. There is a V8 badge on the dash below the clock. But the bumpers are the oddest bit. Maybe it was a prototype and was built with the earlier bumpers, and then the seller changed the front end to make it look like a typical 75 V8. Maybe he thought people would not believe it was a genuine V8 without a Premium grille. It's possible to do this, see again Alex's car. But posting pics of two different front ends when trying to sell what is presumably one car......strange!! Last edited by Bolin; 19th November 2006 at 00:14..

19th November 2006, 10:33	#8
Alex30013k Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon 2.0 CDTi Conn Se Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ashford Kent Posts: 1,560 Thanks: 17 Thanked 29 Times in 21 Posts	To me this looks like a Mg ZT V8 development car, But Its an AUTO - You dont get Zt Auto V8's Looks like some one had retro fitted a V8 Bumper As its not been painted propley as the black vents under the indicators are painted in red Then fitted all the 75 stuff like wood dash and 75 markings - Mk1 and MK2 Oh and a cream colour steering wheel on a Ash grey dash? Also the gear gator is not colour coded in wood as its still black. And on the V8 Rover 75 you could not see the zorts on here you can Also not forgetting its registered as an MG Manufacturer MG Model ZT SE 260 V8 Body type 4 DOOR SALOON Colour RED Fuel type PETROL Date manufactured 11 February 2004 Last edited by Alex30013k; 19th November 2006 at 10:36..

19th November 2006, 12:29	#9
anglaslt Loves to post R75 V8 and XPower SV-R Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vilnius Posts: 278 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think more probably it's a 75 V8 development car, based on a ZT 260. It has a ZT 260 bumper with heat shields but has the 75 V8 exhaust system and auto box. The gear gaiter is probably pre-production. It was not long after this car was registered that MGR announced the launch of the 75 V8 at Geneva. IIRC the car was one of a batch of cars that B&G bought from MGR, including the (in)famous JTD diesel and a very nice LHD bi-fuel car. It has a few oddities but at the right price maybe not a bad car. My main concern would be having a Rover registered as an MG. Tom __________________ The Two Sixties - It's a LHD V8 thing too...................... SV Club supports all Ford powered MGs......................... Membership Number 112

19th November 2006, 14:51	#10
Pete Owners Club Director Rover 75 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sherfield-on-Loddon Posts: 4,872 Thanks: 137 Thanked 996 Times in 444 Posts	I think Rincewind has commented on this motor. It's a bitsa special and if the same he is of the opinion that it should have been destroyed, not let out for sale. In one way it's good that is wasn't but a potential buyer may be caught out with this one if they are not careful. It'd be much better if a MK1 nose was stuck on it though, at least the bodywork would all match up. __________________ Follow The Club On Twitter

18th November 2006, 23:52	#2
tourerfogey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Are Dealers allowed to say this? 'PLEASE NOTE: The car is sold as seen and as such comes with no warranty.'

19th November 2006, 07:42	#4
Keith This is my second home ZT400 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ellesmere Posts: 5,948 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43 Times in 29 Posts	It is a proper V8 not entirely sure of it's history though Brown and Gammons have had it listed on their site for a while, I forgot about it and I suppose I should have taken a look at it before I bought my Black one I think they had it on sale a the MG event at Silverstone alongside the fiat Diesel powered 75 etc Definitely a MK1 rear bumper no doubt Tim or the Mathews brothers will be along shortly with full details I Will move this to the V8 forum later

19th November 2006, 09:43	#6
colinjyates Avid contributor ROVER 75 SALOON Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ascot Posts: 123 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	I wonder if this vehicle has a V8 chassis number sequence?

19th November 2006, 10:03	#7
Lates This is my second home Jaguar XE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coventry Posts: 4,321 Thanks: 56 Thanked 59 Times in 55 Posts	Anybody thought about bombing them with a few questions about its legitimacy ? Vin number, which front end does it now have,do you have matching bumpers ?