wet wet wet

david75 · 29th August 2013, 21:05

Last couple of days I smelled a sort of musty smell in the car, and last night I noticed the rear window had steamed up on the inside for no apparent reason.

Tonight I found out why: wet carpet in the driver's footwell, and an even worse puddle in the rear footwell, also driver's side. Front & back, driver's side only. Passenger side bone dry.

Got to thinking, "Why?". Checked plenums (which I do regularly, and I have Jules' plenum guard): bone dry. Windows left open during rain? Nope. Leaky dooor seals? No - no evidence of any water having been on the inside of the doors.

And I do not have a sun roof.

Then I remembered the torrential rain we had on Saturday (affected a lot of south Essex where I live). I was not out in it - car was parked in the driveway next to the house. But could the deluge (which was truly a monsoon and caused major flooding locally, as you might have seen on the news) have run off down the windscreen scuttle drains, filled up the plenums too quick for them to drain properly, and found its way into the car?

Anway, did best to mop it up tonight, but obviously the carpets still squelch a lot due to the foam underlay beong saturated.

What should I do? Leave to dry naturally? Leave a fan heater in the car for a bit? Or is it carpets (and therefore seats) out?

Advice appreciated.

Talago · 29th August 2013, 21:15

I think its carpets out. They hold an enormous amount of water when wet.

Westonboy · 29th August 2013, 21:34

You are wise to consider the scuttle as a source of water ingress. My CDT was damp when I bought it, I was told that it was a door seal that the garage had replaced, but eventually the water level in the car was above the carpets in the drivers footwell. I asked the Rover guru Jules for advice, and he said seal your scuttle clips, I did this and no more water.

keithybhoy · 29th August 2013, 22:13

Is the boot dry

david75 · 29th August 2013, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithybhoy

Is the boot dry

Yes, I could not find any dampness in the boot.

BigJohn · 30th August 2013, 06:44

It's carpets out I'm afraid ! My drivers side carpet front and rear got soaked just winter due to leaking sunroof drains, not your source of water I know. I put a 800w oil filled radiator, drum fan and de-humidifier in the car and had them on constantly for a week. I got about 12 litres of water out of the de-humidifier until the interior was so dry it couldn't extract anymore. The carpets were dry to the touch so I thought I'd solved it. Checked the foam underside only to find it was still soaking wet ! Once the carpets were out it look 10 days in the spare bathroom with the dehumidifier and heater on to dry them out and I lost count of the number of times I emptied the dehumidifier.

Rev Jules · 30th August 2013, 07:17

Reference the suggestion to seal scuttle clips, what would one seal them with that you would be able to take them at a future date, and I would also presume they would be the seven that run across the bottom of the windscreen.

Julien ( Bluebird)

Westonboy · 30th August 2013, 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by julienhoulton

Reference the suggestion to seal scuttle clips, what would one seal them with that you would be able to take them at a future date, and I would also presume they would be the seven that run across the bottom of the windscreen.

Julien ( Bluebird)

You need to remove the wipers, scuttle clips and scuttlepanel. Then remove the scuttle clip seats, silicone them back in place and job done. I think Arctic wrote the definitive method of how to do this.

bubs · 30th August 2013, 09:24

Also worth checking your rear door seal, they come apart from the door at the rear where it bends inwards.

david75 · 30th August 2013, 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigJohn

It's carpets out I'm afraid ! ....

....I lost count of the number of times I emptied the dehumidifier.

1. Can anyone point me to a "How to..." or removing the carpets, ie what else needs to be taken off/out, etc. I looked around the forum and found lots of refereces to 'carpets out' and interior changes, but I need an idiot's guide.

2. Is a dehumidifier something that can easily/cheaply be bought/hired?

thanks

29th August 2013, 21:05	#1
david75 Posted a thing or two Rover 75 2.5 V6 Conn SE, 04 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southend Posts: 1,176 Thanks: 544 Thanked 302 Times in 165 Posts	wet wet wet Last couple of days I smelled a sort of musty smell in the car, and last night I noticed the rear window had steamed up on the inside for no apparent reason. Tonight I found out why: wet carpet in the driver's footwell, and an even worse puddle in the rear footwell, also driver's side. Front & back, driver's side only. Passenger side bone dry. Got to thinking, "Why?". Checked plenums (which I do regularly, and I have Jules' plenum guard): bone dry. Windows left open during rain? Nope. Leaky dooor seals? No - no evidence of any water having been on the inside of the doors. And I do not have a sun roof. Then I remembered the torrential rain we had on Saturday (affected a lot of south Essex where I live). I was not out in it - car was parked in the driveway next to the house. But could the deluge (which was truly a monsoon and caused major flooding locally, as you might have seen on the news) have run off down the windscreen scuttle drains, filled up the plenums too quick for them to drain properly, and found its way into the car? Anway, did best to mop it up tonight, but obviously the carpets still squelch a lot due to the foam underlay beong saturated. What should I do? Leave to dry naturally? Leave a fan heater in the car for a bit? Or is it carpets (and therefore seats) out? Advice appreciated. __________________

30th August 2013, 07:17	#7
Rev Jules This is my second home Rover 75 Tourer+ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Radcliffe on Trent Posts: 10,711 Thanks: 7,308 Thanked 3,929 Times in 2,051 Posts	Scuttle Clips Reference the suggestion to seal scuttle clips, what would one seal them with that you would be able to take them at a future date, and I would also presume they would be the seven that run across the bottom of the windscreen. Julien ( Bluebird)

29th August 2013, 21:15	#2
Talago Gets stuck in Rover 75 Club SE Tourer 1969 Rover P6 3500 V8 1973 Rover P6 3500 V8 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Belfast Posts: 945 Thanks: 27 Thanked 31 Times in 24 Posts	I think its carpets out. They hold an enormous amount of water when wet.

29th August 2013, 21:34	#3
Westonboy Posted a thing or two Honda Jazz Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Llangollen Posts: 1,025 Thanks: 301 Thanked 344 Times in 158 Posts	You are wise to consider the scuttle as a source of water ingress. My CDT was damp when I bought it, I was told that it was a door seal that the garage had replaced, but eventually the water level in the car was above the carpets in the drivers footwell. I asked the Rover guru Jules for advice, and he said seal your scuttle clips, I did this and no more water.

29th August 2013, 22:13	#4
keithybhoy Banned MG ZT-T190 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,020 Thanks: 114 Thanked 97 Times in 74 Posts	Is the boot dry

30th August 2013, 06:44	#6
BigJohn Gets stuck in Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Essex Posts: 609 Thanks: 518 Thanked 162 Times in 104 Posts	It's carpets out I'm afraid ! My drivers side carpet front and rear got soaked just winter due to leaking sunroof drains, not your source of water I know. I put a 800w oil filled radiator, drum fan and de-humidifier in the car and had them on constantly for a week. I got about 12 litres of water out of the de-humidifier until the interior was so dry it couldn't extract anymore. The carpets were dry to the touch so I thought I'd solved it. Checked the foam underside only to find it was still soaking wet ! Once the carpets were out it look 10 days in the spare bathroom with the dehumidifier and heater on to dry them out and I lost count of the number of times I emptied the dehumidifier.

30th August 2013, 09:24	#9
bubs Posted a thing or two ROVER 75 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Canvey Island, Essex Posts: 1,651 Thanks: 43 Thanked 163 Times in 134 Posts	Also worth checking your rear door seal, they come apart from the door at the rear where it bends inwards.