CD Player Seized - RESULT!

Bartonrover · 11th May 2011, 19:47

Searched on this forum and there's plenty about the sticking or jammimg CD cartridge and how to remove the player from the glovebox.

However my problem with my Alpine player was that the cartridge would eject - but it would not play and kept reading "No CD". I could hear it clicking and trying to read the CDs but to no avail. I tried a spare working cartridge - still no good. I searched the forums and found 4 other posts with apparently the same problem - and "helpful" advice about the sticking cartridge or even spraying the innards with WD40 - but no-one appeared to report that they had solved the problem.

Firstly, anyone with a CD player problem is advised to remove it, take off the top casing, then reconnect in the footwell of the car with the innards open for inspection. (Naturally, BEWARE THE EXPOSED LASER). Watching what is or isn't happening can be very revealing.

It showed that the machine was trying to read each CD by rising up and down the cartridge CD by CD - but couldn't pull the CDs across to the player.

The big cog (Photo 4) which is revealed when the lid is off can usually be turned by hand (eg to release a sticking cartridge) but mine had seized solid. And the car has done only 27k... .

THE FAULT - was simply a drive cog (its on the end of the spindle that meshes with the big cog in Photo 4) that was not meshing with its worm drive (see Photo 8 - sorry the photo is taken after the problem has been rectified - note there is plenty of lubricant around the mechhanism too!). To check this drive cog on the other side (underneath) of the player meant releasing if from the chassis by removing the floating suspension rubber bungs

The worm had somehow risen on top of the cog it was supposed to be meshing with - and just would not budge. You'd think any vibration would have made it reseat properly (but no) - all it took to rectify was a slight nudge with the tip of a screwdriver and heypresto - all working as it should. I have to say that both son and I thought the motor "B" had packed up - until his sharp eyes spotted what might just be a fault that others have experienced?

Push out the gel/rubber bungs and disconnect the springs - watch out as this can fly away - moving it first to the position shown below reduces a lot of the tension. (Long nosed pliers are useful for reconnecting).

uvs166 · 12th May 2011, 22:27

this looks like great news. I will take mine out tomorrow and have a look at it.
Thanks loads.
Malc.

Sorted Thanks a lot now working great
Malc

Bartonrover · 14th May 2011, 17:26

You're welcome and pleased you got yours sorted too. Have to say my young son deserves a lot of the credit for spotting the reason for the fault.

Robbie Sadr · 24th May 2011, 18:07

Hi guys,
I have removed the unit from the glove box and released the screws of the cover but just cannot see how the cover will come off without damaging something!
What do I need to do to access the internal gubbins???
I thought I was practical but this has me beat - big time...
Cheers
Robbie

Robbie Sadr · 24th May 2011, 18:15

I'm having problems removing the metal cover of the changer, how does it release? I have removed all the fixing screws but cannot see how to release the clipsyou have identified and guess I have missed something somewhere....
Robbie

Bartonrover · 24th May 2011, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie Sadr

I'm having problems removing the metal cover of the changer, how does it release? I have removed all the fixing screws but cannot see how to release the clipsyou have identified and guess I have missed something somewhere....
Robbie

Robbie - you need to push the clips in, so that they are no longer proud - as I recall there are clips on both sides - an helper/extra pair of hands can be useful. The cover is quite flimsly and needs some gentle persuasion (ie bending!) - but will come off. Quite sharp edges too. HtH. Robert

Bartonrover · 24th May 2011, 19:18

Robbie - see also post No. 8 on this thread - I forgot to mention the metal tabs at the corners:

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ghlight=player

graham clarke · 26th August 2017, 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartonrover

Searched on this forum and there's plenty about the sticking or jammimg CD cartridge and how to remove the player from the glovebox.

However my problem with my Alpine player was that the cartridge would eject - but it would not play and kept reading "No CD". I could hear it clicking and trying to read the CDs but to no avail. I tried a spare working cartridge - still no good. I searched the forums and found 4 other posts with apparently the same problem - and "helpful" advice about the sticking cartridge or even spraying the innards with WD40 - but no-one appeared to report that they had solved the problem.

Firstly, anyone with a CD player problem is advised to remove it, take off the top casing, then reconnect in the footwell of the car with the innards open for inspection. (Naturally, BEWARE THE EXPOSED LASER). Watching what is or isn't happening can be very revealing.

It showed that the machine was trying to read each CD by rising up and down the cartridge CD by CD - but couldn't pull the CDs across to the player.

The big cog (Photo 4) which is revealed when the lid is off can usually be turned by hand (eg to release a sticking cartridge) but mine had seized solid. And the car has done only 27k... .

THE FAULT - was simply a drive cog (its on the end of the spindle that meshes with the big cog in Photo 4) that was not meshing with its worm drive (see Photo 8 - sorry the photo is taken after the problem has been rectified - note there is plenty of lubricant around the mechhanism too!). To check this drive cog on the other side (underneath) of the player meant releasing if from the chassis by removing the floating suspension rubber bungs

The worm had somehow risen on top of the cog it was supposed to be meshing with - and just would not budge. You'd think any vibration would have made it reseat properly (but no) - all it took to rectify was a slight nudge with the tip of a screwdriver and heypresto - all working as it should. I have to say that both son and I thought the motor "B" had packed up - until his sharp eyes spotted what might just be a fault that others have experienced?

Push out the gel/rubber bungs and disconnect the springs - watch out as this can fly away - moving it first to the position shown below reduces a lot of the tension. (Long nosed pliers are useful for reconnecting).

barton rover
Thanks for your comprehensive analysis of the CD player problem that seems to be quite common. using this and the link to 'Sergei' I now have a working CD again.

Beedge144 · 5th June 2018, 10:09

Thanks for this info - just taken my changer apart, and although I couldn't really see a problem with that worm gear on my unit, with a little gentle digital persuasion it was definitely meshing, and so I put it all back together again and it all works perfectly

Just got to order up a new head unit an pop that in

Bullnose75 · 10th June 2018, 12:16

My cd changer in recently bought Tourer had gremlins in it when I got it. It would work ok for a while then would cycle through the cd check procedure only to say No Discs even though there were six discs in it !
The old thump on the case worked a couple of times but when that didn't work the next time I took the cover off and gave the mechanism inside a thump. That got it working for a while only for it to stop working again.
So this time took casing off,loosened the whole mechanism from the case,checked for any loose connections etc,none found,so gave it a damn good blast with the airline,put it back together again and,touch wood,it's been working flawlessly ever since. Might not be something anyone would advise you to try but hey,had nothing to lose as it wasn't working anyway

11th May 2011, 19:47	#1
Bartonrover Gets stuck in Rover 75 CDT & V6 saloons in Wedgwood Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Norfolk Posts: 782 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	CD Player Seized - RESULT! Searched on this forum and there's plenty about the sticking or jammimg CD cartridge and how to remove the player from the glovebox. However my problem with my Alpine player was that the cartridge would eject - but it would not play and kept reading "No CD". I could hear it clicking and trying to read the CDs but to no avail. I tried a spare working cartridge - still no good. I searched the forums and found 4 other posts with apparently the same problem - and "helpful" advice about the sticking cartridge or even spraying the innards with WD40 - but no-one appeared to report that they had solved the problem. Firstly, anyone with a CD player problem is advised to remove it, take off the top casing, then reconnect in the footwell of the car with the innards open for inspection. (Naturally, BEWARE THE EXPOSED LASER). Watching what is or isn't happening can be very revealing. It showed that the machine was trying to read each CD by rising up and down the cartridge CD by CD - but couldn't pull the CDs across to the player. The big cog (Photo 4) which is revealed when the lid is off can usually be turned by hand (eg to release a sticking cartridge) but mine had seized solid. And the car has done only 27k... . THE FAULT - was simply a drive cog (its on the end of the spindle that meshes with the big cog in Photo 4) that was not meshing with its worm drive (see Photo 8 - sorry the photo is taken after the problem has been rectified - note there is plenty of lubricant around the mechhanism too!). To check this drive cog on the other side (underneath) of the player meant releasing if from the chassis by removing the floating suspension rubber bungs The worm had somehow risen on top of the cog it was supposed to be meshing with - and just would not budge. You'd think any vibration would have made it reseat properly (but no) - all it took to rectify was a slight nudge with the tip of a screwdriver and heypresto - all working as it should. I have to say that both son and I thought the motor "B" had packed up - until his sharp eyes spotted what might just be a fault that others have experienced? Push out the gel/rubber bungs and disconnect the springs - watch out as this can fly away - moving it first to the position shown below reduces a lot of the tension. (Long nosed pliers are useful for reconnecting). __________________ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...7ef19087b7.gif Last edited by Bartonrover; 11th May 2011 at 19:56..

12th May 2011, 22:27	#2
uvs166 Regular poster Rover 75 Connoisseur CDT Tourer Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Long Eaton Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	this looks like great news. I will take mine out tomorrow and have a look at it. Thanks loads. Malc. Sorted Thanks a lot now working great Malc __________________ http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ethumb1php.jpg Last edited by uvs166; 14th May 2011 at 13:35.. Reason: Thanks

14th May 2011, 17:26	#3
Bartonrover Gets stuck in Rover 75 CDT & V6 saloons in Wedgwood Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Norfolk Posts: 782 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	You're welcome and pleased you got yours sorted too. Have to say my young son deserves a lot of the credit for spotting the reason for the fault. __________________ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...7ef19087b7.gif

24th May 2011, 18:07	#4
Robbie Sadr Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St Neots Posts: 30 Thanks: 16 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	CD changer issue Hi guys, I have removed the unit from the glove box and released the screws of the cover but just cannot see how the cover will come off without damaging something! What do I need to do to access the internal gubbins??? I thought I was practical but this has me beat - big time... Cheers Robbie

24th May 2011, 18:15	#5
Robbie Sadr Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St Neots Posts: 30 Thanks: 16 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	CD changer issue I'm having problems removing the metal cover of the changer, how does it release? I have removed all the fixing screws but cannot see how to release the clipsyou have identified and guess I have missed something somewhere.... Robbie

24th May 2011, 19:18	#7
Bartonrover Gets stuck in Rover 75 CDT & V6 saloons in Wedgwood Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Norfolk Posts: 782 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Robbie - see also post No. 8 on this thread - I forgot to mention the metal tabs at the corners: http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ghlight=player __________________ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...7ef19087b7.gif

5th June 2018, 10:09	#9
Beedge144 Newbie Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Mold Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Problem solved Thanks for this info - just taken my changer apart, and although I couldn't really see a problem with that worm gear on my unit, with a little gentle digital persuasion it was definitely meshing, and so I put it all back together again and it all works perfectly Just got to order up a new head unit an pop that in

10th June 2018, 12:16	#10
Bullnose75 Avid contributor Rover 75 Tourer 2.0 V6 LPG Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Colchester Posts: 210 Thanks: 4 Thanked 50 Times in 39 Posts	My cd changer in recently bought Tourer had gremlins in it when I got it. It would work ok for a while then would cycle through the cd check procedure only to say No Discs even though there were six discs in it ! The old thump on the case worked a couple of times but when that didn't work the next time I took the cover off and gave the mechanism inside a thump. That got it working for a while only for it to stop working again. So this time took casing off,loosened the whole mechanism from the case,checked for any loose connections etc,none found,so gave it a damn good blast with the airline,put it back together again and,touch wood,it's been working flawlessly ever since. Might not be something anyone would advise you to try but hey,had nothing to lose as it wasn't working anyway