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Old 23rd February 2021, 17:11   #21
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Nothing whatsoever was intended to undermine you or any trader .You dont know me or the links i have with China as regards to purchasing from them .The facts are clear to me .Profiteering at excessive levels and sour grapes when someone tries to HELP members.In addition there is nothing difficult in fitting the screen .I watched a capable man solder mine
Whoa! Profiteering and excessive levels? That is a bit harsh.

The price, if I recall you posted up was £65. For that £65, I assume you would not be bypassing the rules and would have subscribed as a trader, even for a month? there has been precedent for this, where a member offered a non profit supply, but still had to subscribe - even though I do not agree with it, it does maintain a consistency and fairness (how are we to know there is no profit involved, and it also prevents members making profit whilst claiming none are made in future).

I do not know if Rick has actually done the work he claims above, but I have no reason to doubt him over it at all. Work and effort, if undertaken, he is entitled to be compensated and even congratulated for (particularly due to the limited appeal), particularly in the ingenuity of doing something to earn a few quid for what could only ultimately amount to pocket money on the grand scale of things.

Looking at the costs involved, via Rick, it is not excessive either. How long did the person you watched take to dismantle, solder and rebuild the cluster? An hour? So £65 to buy from you, and how much to have a local 'soldering person' solder it for me, £30-50? (I may be able to do it myself, but then if I damage it.....). Then for him/her to test it ....... OK unlikely he/she could test it, but you spend time refitting the cluster, only to find it was faulty all along. Now it all has to come out, be desoldered (for how much?) and sent back to you, because you will be warranting them, after all I bought from you. Will you pay the cost to desolder the faulty and reinstall of the replacement? Even if it works on fitting, but fails after 8 months.......

By my reckoning, based upon your figure of £65, Rick is 'profiteering' between £20 and £40, ignoring any faulty units or mishaps. Why should he not? He has a business no different to the likes of Tesco or others. Additionally from what I can tell, he does a fair bit to enhance ownership (if that is your taste). I can also choose to buy elsewhere for some items, but with the LED trims and windscreens these are unique requiring a bit of effort on his part. The IPK screen supply has been no secret, but the back up that Rick offers is worth paying for surely? Heated windscreens? Where else could you find them? He put the effort into those. Colour changing of the LEDs and cluster display change, he bought the goodwill and development from Klarzy who himself, put a lot of effort into initiating and developing this part of the business, and with Rick since progressing it.

If you do not want to buy from Rick, that is fine, if you want to set up a competing business, that too, is fine. But it is unfair to accuse him of 'profiteering' when in most instance other options are available, for similar costs, but without the same kind of back up and specialist development (ie with 75/ZT).
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Old 23rd February 2021, 17:23   #22
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Nothing whatsoever was intended to undermine you or any trader .You dont know me or the links i have with China as regards to purchasing from them .The facts are clear to me .Profiteering at excessive levels and sour grapes when someone tries to HELP members.In addition there is nothing difficult in fitting the screen .I watched a capable man solder mine
I had one of Rick-sta's screens fitted in the last round, I thought the cost of supply and fitment of the screen was perfectly reasonable, even when I included the cost of me driving to him to have it fitted. I could not have fitted it myself as i don't have the skills or equipment.

Reverse engineering anything is never cheap or easy and appreciate how much work is actually involved with such an operation and thanks to Rick for his perseverance to actually give us an improved product over the original and will support our cars for many more years to come.
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Old 23rd February 2021, 17:35   #23
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I can see now why tantallon has pulled out of this.
It seems the IPK screens are now available on ebay and could be as a result of Ricks work. Anyone could go to this seller to arrange a cheaper deal, 2 members are vouching for them.

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I don't normally engage in posts like this, but I have to say that Rick has supplied and fitted a couple of things for me.
He was helpful, professional and talked me through what he was doing.
I found his pricing structure to be extremely reasonable and I came away feeling 'job well done'
On top of that, he's a really nice guy
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Old 23rd February 2021, 19:19   #25
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I can see now why tantallon has pulled out of this.
It seems the IPK screens are now available on ebay and could be as a result of Ricks work. Anyone could go to this seller to arrange a cheaper deal, 2 members are vouching for them.

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Yes, I am one of the two, but at the time (as I stated) Rick didn't have any screens himself, I purchased and got Rick to fit it. Not too sure it would lead to a cheaper deal if purchased individually.

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Old 23rd February 2021, 19:33   #26
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if its so easy why didn't you fit the screen yourself?
Because I have an electrical engineer in my employ who specialises in component repair .Why would i fit it myself ?

This company also would fit one for any member locally .
He has carried out repairs for me when my engineer has been overseas on jobs .Predominantly in China where he acts as a consultant to a company called Dong Fang
I have no connection whatsoever but can highly recommend them

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Old 23rd February 2021, 19:37   #27
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Because I have an electrical engineer in my employ who specialises in component repair .Why would i fit it myself ?
there you go. To difficult to fit it yourself then? So used a specialist to fit it for you and then claim it to be easy.

Yes it's pretty straight forward and relatively easy for a specialist like myself or the electrical engineer you used, isn't going to be so easy for the average owner who isn't so experienced with soldering or have no soldering skills at all is it?
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Yes, I am one of the two, but at the time (as I stated) Rick didn't have any screens himself, I purchased and got Rick to fit it. Not too sure it would lead to a cheaper deal if purchased individually.

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Available here:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Display-f...IAAOSw1NxfK3~n

and here:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...archweb201603_

Directly from the manufacturer if you want to buy them yourself.

Both work out more expensive to buy individually than the £95 price I offer the screen supply for without fitting.

Ebay is £96 + £9.60 shipping

Aliexpress is £106.62 with the new VAT added that you'd have to pay.
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I don't normally engage in posts like this, but I have to say that Rick has supplied and fitted a couple of things for me.
He was helpful, professional and talked me through what he was doing.
I found his pricing structure to be extremely reasonable and I came away feeling 'job well done'
On top of that, he's a really nice guy
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I had one of Rick-sta's screens fitted in the last round, I thought the cost of supply and fitment of the screen was perfectly reasonable, even when I included the cost of me driving to him to have it fitted. I could not have fitted it myself as i don't have the skills or equipment.

Reverse engineering anything is never cheap or easy and appreciate how much work is actually involved with such an operation and thanks to Rick for his perseverance to actually give us an improved product over the original and will support our cars for many more years to come.
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Hi all,

I would just like to say, I have had one of the new screens (last batch) from Rick-sta, the service he provides is top notch, my screen is excellent, bright and clear, and as I live in the north west I posted the cluster on a thursday, and it was back in my car the following tuesday.... 1st class

I think the replacement screen service he offers is well worth the outlay he is asking, its just not worth cutting corners.

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Because I have an electrical engineer in my employ who specialises in component repair .Why would i fit it myself ?

This company also would fit one for any member locally .
He has carried out repairs for me when my engineer has been overseas on jobs .Predominantly in China where he acts as a consultant to a company called Dong Fang
I have no connection whatsoever but can highly recommend them

219 St. Pauls Rd, Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, PE1 3EH
01733 554979

Bens Peterborough is a tv repair shop serving its local area in Cambridgeshire who specialises in tv repairs , television repairs, electronic repairs and lcd tv repairs. Bens tv repair shop’s post code is PE1 3EH.
How much do they charge to fit and test?
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