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Old 17th April 2019, 17:32   #11
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Yes they are at the top, German cars are over-engineered, expensive and not that reliable, and there are no British cars, there are cars assembled in Britain, but that is another story, that will not last for long following you know what.
You drive whatever floats your boat, if reliability is not important then good for you.

I think we can still consider Jaguar to be a British car in character. At least for now. Ditto Rover 75.

Over-engineered, expensive and almost British in character in the case of the CLS. That's my aspiration alongside the Sportbrake XFR-S.
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Old 17th April 2019, 19:17   #12
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I've found the Rover 75 diesel extremely reliable, but other members may disagree. It's sometimes a case of identical cars performing totally different.
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Old 17th April 2019, 19:44   #13
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I've found the Rover 75 diesel extremely reliable, but other members may disagree. It's sometimes a case of identical cars performing totally different.
I'm very impressed with my recent diesel purchase. I just love the 75, and I'm pleased to say the 75 carries the Union flag on the boot lid.
British made....our marque , simply the best.
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Old 17th April 2019, 19:59   #14
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Some real horror stories above. Spares are widely available for our cars, and compared with many other makes, are cheap. My local independent doesn't mind working on the 75 (just another car) and quotes for labour only 'cos I supply the parts. If you take your car into a garage and just say "Fix it" then I guess you're inviting a large bill.
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Old 19th April 2019, 10:42   #15
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Yet, if you look at the Whatcar 2018 reliability survey, the Peugeot 2008 and 3008 are in the top-5 SUV's for reliability.
My local Lloyds Pharmacy scored 100% customer satisfaction after a recent audit yet the service in there is shocking and one member of staff is just plain rude. Reliable audit? I think not.
As for Peugeot, have they got their act together now? Was the quality out of The Ryton factory just not good enough? Is it one of the reasons why it closed?
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Old 19th April 2019, 20:48   #16
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I've found the Rover 75 diesel extremely reliable, but other members may disagree. It's sometimes a case of identical cars performing totally different.
Totally agree. MY ROVER is the most reliable on this forum.--

Just two bulbs and water in the boot during the 15 years I've owned it. ( faults. )

All the mechanical bits are original.----
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Old 20th April 2019, 20:45   #17
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I have finally taken my 2001CDT off the road to replace the clutch and fix the starter motor. And for daily transport in the meanwhile, I have bought a 2003 1.6L Megane convertible, for £575. Drives lovely, everything works ( these cars were very reliable, unlike later ones). If it breaks - well it wouldn't be the end of the world. But for now, it's a great way to enjoy the summer sun, it even has a nice cammy rasp and an eager, light throttle, like wife's old MGF!
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Old 20th April 2019, 20:53   #18
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PS The worst thing about modern French cars are the dealerships. I've heard many horror stories of poor service, dodging accountability and warranty claims, and charging the earth for spares and repairs. But I would happily buy a good second hand one, that someone else has suffered all the 'new car' pain with. My last Renault Cabriolet was still running beautifully at 140,000 miles. My big mistake was trading it in for a "reliable Audi diesel", which cost more in repairs in 2 years than the Renault had in the preceding 10!
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PS The worst thing about modern French cars are the dealerships. I've heard many horror stories of poor service, dodging accountability and warranty claims, and charging the earth for spares and repairs. But I would happily buy a good second hand one, that someone else has suffered all the 'new car' pain with. My last Renault Cabriolet was still running beautifully at 140,000 miles. My big mistake was trading it in for a "reliable Audi diesel", which cost more in repairs in 2 years than the Renault had in the preceding 10!
The world of motoring claims are built on people’s stories often untrue or bits added to for affect. I owned Citroen cars for eighteen years and couldn’t fault the dealer in Forres. Parts guy Nick was brilliant as was Ian in service. The Renault dealer in Forres at the time had the same reputation. People’s experience with dealers is usually associated with an attitude that people have when they first go in. Seen it too many times with people thinking they know better than the staff do and it only gets worse

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The world of motoring claims are built on people’s stories often untrue or bits added to for affect. I owned Citroen cars for eighteen years and couldn’t fault the dealer in Forres. Parts guy Nick was brilliant as was Ian in service. The Renault dealer in Forres at the time had the same reputation. People’s experience with dealers is usually associated with an attitude that people have when they first go in. Seen it too many times with people thinking they know better than the staff do and it only gets worse

Agreed - the only reason we do not hear about poor Rover dealerships is that there are none.

Also, the prices mentioned for French car parts above are nothing out of the ordinary for any car - French, German, Korean, Japanese. It's just that we are accustomed to low prices on our cars. Often for poor quality pattern parts.

For reasonable parts prices and general motoring experience, you cannot beat the modern Vauxhall e.g. Insignia, Astra, Corsa....
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