75 CDTI flywheel

mmz · 1st February 2018, 12:08

Have all 75 diesels had a dual mass flywheel as an original equipment from the factory? My car had a single mass fw and some local "expert" says that there has been both smf and dmf from the factory. Is there some link which tells the truth about this?

Mike Noc · 1st February 2018, 12:25

As far as I know all of the manual M47R diesels left the factory with DMFs.

Can't see there being a link to anything official about it though - nothing else was fitted so no reason for anything to be published.

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chris75 · 1st February 2018, 15:18

The Rave manual , clutch section , says " all manual gearbox vehicles are fitted with a dual-mass flywheel "

Mickyboy · 1st February 2018, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmz

Have all 75 diesels had a dual mass flywheel as an original equipment from the factory? My car had a single mass fw and some local "expert" says that there has been both smf and dmf from the factory. Is there some link which tells the truth about this?

Well that local expert is wrong, all manual 75/ZT diesels had dual mass flywheels fitted as standard, and I wouldnt recommend a solid conversion.
Mick

COLVERT · 1st February 2018, 20:10

A solid flywheel could put excessive strain on the crankshaft and snap it.

Hence for the diesels it's dual mass only.----------

-------It's a DAMPER.

DMGRS · 5th February 2018, 13:55

All models of the 75 / ZT apart from the V8 came with a DMF.
Fitting an SMF is not recommended - there's been crankshaft failures reported over the years when this is done.

Thankfully the DMF in our cars is very reliable, rarely requiring replacement. DMFs have a very bad reputation, however we're all quite lucky!

mmz · 8th February 2018, 13:54

I am at present in the middle of a consumer protection case against a garage and now I have to somehow prove that it is not at all normal to have a SMF in a Rover 75 CDTI. Where I can find some official text including the fact that there has always been a DMF in every CDTI?

The garage installed a new clutch a year ago and after 15000 km one of the driven plate springs broke and also the slave bearing was totally shot. There was a SMF installed which I think must have something to do with the spring failure at least. I also think that they should have noticed the SMF and told me about it.

chris75 · 8th February 2018, 16:36

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Originally Posted by mmz

Where I can find some official text including the fact that there has always been a DMF in every CDTI?

The Haynes manual states that all manual models have a DMF ,Clutch chapter 6 , page 2 , General information . So does the official Rave manual , but that costs a lot more.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...manual&_sop=12

mmz · 8th February 2018, 16:43

Thanks. I'll refer to those books.

1st February 2018, 12:08	#1
mmz Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	75 CDTI flywheel Have all 75 diesels had a dual mass flywheel as an original equipment from the factory? My car had a single mass fw and some local "expert" says that there has been both smf and dmf from the factory. Is there some link which tells the truth about this?

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Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,565 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	As far as I know all of the manual M47R diesels left the factory with DMFs. Can't see there being a link to anything official about it though - nothing else was fitted so no reason for anything to be published. . Last edited by Mike Noc; 1st February 2018 at 17:31..

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chris75 same car since 2005 2001 Rover 75 2.0 v6 Connoisseur Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ellesmere Port , Cheshire Posts: 3,816 Thanks: 379 Thanked 549 Times in 466 Posts	The Rave manual , clutch section , says " all manual gearbox vehicles are fitted with a dual-mass flywheel " __________________ Who said it was simples ?

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COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	A solid flywheel could put excessive strain on the crankshaft and snap it. Hence for the diesels it's dual mass only.-----------------It's a DAMPER.

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mmz Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I am at present in the middle of a consumer protection case against a garage and now I have to somehow prove that it is not at all normal to have a SMF in a Rover 75 CDTI. Where I can find some official text including the fact that there has always been a DMF in every CDTI? The garage installed a new clutch a year ago and after 15000 km one of the driven plate springs broke and also the slave bearing was totally shot. There was a SMF installed which I think must have something to do with the spring failure at least. I also think that they should have noticed the SMF and told me about it.

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mmz Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks. I'll refer to those books.