Go Back   The 75 and ZT Owners Club Forums > The 75 and ZT Owners Club Forums > Technical Help Forum
Register FAQ Image Gallery Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 20th June 2010, 13:04   #1
abid442
Regular poster
 
rover 75 saloon

Join Date: May 2010
Location: stoke on trent
Posts: 42
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Think someone is telling me porkies!

Can a piece off the bottom of an injector break off, go through the engine break all the valves cause a turbo to sieze and then come out through the exhaust and cause the engine to go? Whilst trying to fit a new turbo the mechanic removed the injectors and noticed that a piece off one had broken. He then told me this had gone into my turbo and caused it to sieze. Now he wants to remove the manifold to see if the valves are bent? Surely the guy is trying have me off! After 6 weeks of sitting on his garage he finally tells me this. I am certain that its just a turbo! Someone said he has done this to other people then he buys the cars fixes them and makes a big profit! Is it possible what he is saying
abid442 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2010, 15:38   #2
abid442
Regular poster
 
rover 75 saloon

Join Date: May 2010
Location: stoke on trent
Posts: 42
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

bump
need help before i get ripped off!
abid442 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2010, 15:51   #3
matt_tdv6
Avid contributor
 
04 ZT CDTI & 04 MG ZR Express

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Scunthorpe
Posts: 244
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

If the turbo failed and the engine over revved on its own oil it is quite possible the injectors could be damaged

I have seen this happen on Komatsu loading shovels a few times
matt_tdv6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2010, 16:05   #4
T-Cut
This is my second home
 
Rover75 and Mreg Corsa.

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sumweer onat mote o'dust (Sagin)
Posts: 21,751
Thanks: 341
Thanked 3,660 Times in 2,924 Posts
Default

I sounds like a pretty imaginative explanation to me.

TC
T-Cut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2010, 16:36   #5
Kearton
Gets stuck in
 
MG ZT-T CDTi

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Sunny Suffolk
Posts: 607
Thanks: 1
Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by abid442 View Post
Can a piece off the bottom of an injector break off, go through the engine break all the valves cause a turbo to sieze and then come out through the exhaust and cause the engine to go? Whilst trying to fit a new turbo the mechanic removed the injectors and noticed that a piece off one had broken. He then told me this had gone into my turbo and caused it to sieze. Now he wants to remove the manifold to see if the valves are bent? Surely the guy is trying have me off! After 6 weeks of sitting on his garage he finally tells me this. I am certain that its just a turbo! Someone said he has done this to other people then he buys the cars fixes them and makes a big profit! Is it possible what he is saying
I haven't seen the hot end of one of these injectors, so can't comment on whether a bit could break off.
If it did break off an injector, it is only likely to damage the exhaust valve of that cylinder. I reckon it could then damage the vanes of the exhaust side of the turbo - but by how much would depend on its size and mass.
Unless very small, it may not get through the catalytic convertor. It depends on how large the holes are.

As T-CUT says, the explanation seems rather exaggerated. Has you shown you proof or details of how he came to that conclusion.
If you will be faced with a repair bill for this I'd consider getting a second opinion - from a trusted mechanic friend or RAC / AA if you are in one of them.

Just my twopennyworth.

Regards,
Kearton
Kearton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2010, 17:07   #6
Freebyrd
Posted a thing or two
 
MG ZT-T

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 1,667
Thanks: 992
Thanked 384 Times in 277 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by abid442 View Post
Can a piece off the bottom of an injector break off, go through the engine break all the valves cause a turbo to sieze and then come out through the exhaust and cause the engine to go? Whilst trying to fit a new turbo the mechanic removed the injectors and noticed that a piece off one had broken. He then told me this had gone into my turbo and caused it to sieze. Now he wants to remove the manifold to see if the valves are bent? Surely the guy is trying have me off! After 6 weeks of sitting on his garage he finally tells me this. I am certain that its just a turbo! Someone said he has done this to other people then he buys the cars fixes them and makes a big profit! Is it possible what he is saying
Sounds a bit like the 'Magic Bullit Theory' ,, did the guy also claim that it then hit the tyre and caused a puncture???

A compresion test on the cylinders would show up any bent/damaged valves.

Last edited by Freebyrd; 20th June 2010 at 17:08.. Reason: addendum
Freebyrd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th June 2010, 17:41   #7
abid442
Regular poster
 
rover 75 saloon

Join Date: May 2010
Location: stoke on trent
Posts: 42
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default To good to get rid of!

Going do a compression test on the cylinders tommorrow! i dont no this theory! it looks like the injector has corroded only one of them. To be honest the car is to nice not to be fixed. 2004 54 rover 75 december 2004. Auto diesel. cdti se connissuer! If the engine has gone do you guys reckon i could get around 1200 for spares or repairs? Really depressed as this car is lovely and was going to be my project

Last edited by abid442; 20th June 2010 at 18:28..
abid442 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 22:57.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © 2006-2023, The Rover 75 & MG ZT Owners Club Ltd