Rover > Pioneer radio wiring?

Chris K · 16th August 2009, 13:56

I took my Pioneer radio out my old 75 to fit in my newer 75 but the Rover fittings are not the same

My old rover (with std radio) had a different fitting to the new rover (same year model) but CD80 radio/CD, so it's not a straight swap

There's two connector blocks which clip together fine (main conbtrols i assume) - but there's no power - this is the back of the pioneer and the only connectors left are the blue socket pictured bottom/right and next to that a black socket which originally was plugged, out of which came 4 wires blue, grey, red, black

The only wires left comming out of the Rover are here:

Brown/Blue & red/blue

Also found this loose wire comming out of the rover dash

Red/green (yes i need better camera)

I was hoping to chop these off and just scotchlock the right power leads together

anyone know which goes where?

Chris K · 16th August 2009, 14:05

btw here's the pioneer adaptor that plugs into the black socket

raykay · 16th August 2009, 14:40

In your third picture, the Blue/Orange and Blue/Purple are the steering wheel control cables, the Red/Green is the phone mute.
In your last picture, the Pioneer adapter is for the steering wheel controls. , Trace the read that is plugged in to the Pioneer radio back, it should connect to two ISO plugs.

Chris K · 16th August 2009, 15:39

not sure what anb ISO plug is - is this them:

raykay · 16th August 2009, 16:11

That is a BMW (the 17 pin one) to ISO and steering control adapter lead for Pioneer, it has the two 8 pin ISO plugs on the other end which connect to the pioneer lead. If your new car had the CD80, it has ISO plugs so the Pioneer lead should fit without it.

For the steering wheel controls you need an adapter lead for Pioneer, with ISO plugs and steering control cables in the green mini ISO plug.

Chris K · 16th August 2009, 16:45

You're quite right - the new 75 had CD80 and the 2 x 8 pin plugs went straight in

It all works fine but no steering controls

It just leaves the two wires coming from Rover for steering controls & 4 wires going to Pioneer for the same

Is there no way to just chop the connectors off & splice the right wires together?

If I have to buy an adaptor what would i look/ask for and where?

raykay · 16th August 2009, 16:56

I would think you could, it looks like the adapter in your second picture has four leads, at a guess they would be 12v, earth, and the two steering control cables. But I don't know which is which, are the pins on the BMW plug numbered?

Chris K · 16th August 2009, 17:12

Pins aren't numbered & not a great picture....

...but from left to right

Blue is wired seperately
Grey is wired to black wire & black wire is marked 'earth'
Red is wired to yellow & yellow is marked '12v memory' (maybe live?)
Black is wired seperately

Chris K · 17th August 2009, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by raykay

I would think you could, it looks like the adapter in your second picture has four leads, at a guess they would be 12v, earth, and the two steering control cables. But I don't know which is which, are the pins on the BMW plug numbered?

Bingo!

I cut the connector block off leaving 4 wires

Using your info I connected red from pioneer to power in existing loom (yellow), grey to black (i guessed was earth), the remaining two wires from pioneer and two from the rover you identified as steering controls i connected 'at random' and it worked!

used 4 scotch locks (£2) and saved me £40 for another adaptor well chuffed

raykay have few virtual beers on me - you da man

16th August 2009, 13:56	#1
Chris K Loves to post Rover 75 CDT Conn SE Saloon Automatic Gold 68K Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Loughborough, Leics Posts: 350 Thanks: 9 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rover > Pioneer radio wiring? I took my Pioneer radio out my old 75 to fit in my newer 75 but the Rover fittings are not the same My old rover (with std radio) had a different fitting to the new rover (same year model) but CD80 radio/CD, so it's not a straight swap There's two connector blocks which clip together fine (main conbtrols i assume) - but there's no power - this is the back of the pioneer and the only connectors left are the blue socket pictured bottom/right and next to that a black socket which originally was plugged, out of which came 4 wires blue, grey, red, black The only wires left comming out of the Rover are here: Brown/Blue & red/blue Also found this loose wire comming out of the rover dash Red/green (yes i need better camera) I was hoping to chop these off and just scotchlock the right power leads together anyone know which goes where?

16th August 2009, 14:05	#2
Chris K Loves to post Rover 75 CDT Conn SE Saloon Automatic Gold 68K Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Loughborough, Leics Posts: 350 Thanks: 9 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	btw here's the pioneer adaptor that plugs into the black socket

16th August 2009, 14:40	#3
raykay I really should get out more....... Now Other Manufacturer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Co. Kerry Posts: 2,786 Thanks: 16 Thanked 310 Times in 283 Posts	In your third picture, the Blue/Orange and Blue/Purple are the steering wheel control cables, the Red/Green is the phone mute. In your last picture, the Pioneer adapter is for the steering wheel controls. , Trace the read that is plugged in to the Pioneer radio back, it should connect to two ISO plugs.

16th August 2009, 15:39	#4
Chris K Loves to post Rover 75 CDT Conn SE Saloon Automatic Gold 68K Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Loughborough, Leics Posts: 350 Thanks: 9 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	not sure what anb ISO plug is - is this them:

16th August 2009, 16:11	#5
raykay I really should get out more....... Now Other Manufacturer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Co. Kerry Posts: 2,786 Thanks: 16 Thanked 310 Times in 283 Posts	That is a BMW (the 17 pin one) to ISO and steering control adapter lead for Pioneer, it has the two 8 pin ISO plugs on the other end which connect to the pioneer lead. If your new car had the CD80, it has ISO plugs so the Pioneer lead should fit without it. For the steering wheel controls you need an adapter lead for Pioneer, with ISO plugs and steering control cables in the green mini ISO plug.

16th August 2009, 16:45	#6
Chris K Loves to post Rover 75 CDT Conn SE Saloon Automatic Gold 68K Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Loughborough, Leics Posts: 350 Thanks: 9 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You're quite right - the new 75 had CD80 and the 2 x 8 pin plugs went straight in It all works fine but no steering controls It just leaves the two wires coming from Rover for steering controls & 4 wires going to Pioneer for the same Is there no way to just chop the connectors off & splice the right wires together? If I have to buy an adaptor what would i look/ask for and where?

16th August 2009, 16:56	#7
raykay I really should get out more....... Now Other Manufacturer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Co. Kerry Posts: 2,786 Thanks: 16 Thanked 310 Times in 283 Posts	I would think you could, it looks like the adapter in your second picture has four leads, at a guess they would be 12v, earth, and the two steering control cables. But I don't know which is which, are the pins on the BMW plug numbered?

16th August 2009, 17:12	#8
Chris K Loves to post Rover 75 CDT Conn SE Saloon Automatic Gold 68K Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Loughborough, Leics Posts: 350 Thanks: 9 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pins aren't numbered & not a great picture.... ...but from left to right Blue is wired seperately Grey is wired to black wire & black wire is marked 'earth' Red is wired to yellow & yellow is marked '12v memory' (maybe live?) Black is wired seperately