locking wheel nut tip - it really works!

Wicksie · 4th December 2021, 08:49

If you have the internal spline type wheel locknuts, the spline has rusted and worn and the key just spins and will not remove the nut - do not despair.
I got this tip from you tube but it really does work for our cars.
Get a 22mm 12 pointed chrome socket, a 2.5lb club hammer or similar and mole grips or stout pipegrip pliers.
Place the socket up against the stuck locknut and Tap the socket until you feel it gripping the circular flange of the nut. Grip the socket with the pliers and give it some healthy wacks - you will find it will force onto the nut for about 10mm
I had to use a straining bar to release the nut but it came out with no slipping of the socket.
Once separated from the nut on the bench, using a drift, you could see that the socket had cut it's own shallow splines.
Footnote: I have purchased 4 new normal wheel nuts and will throw away the remaining locknuts, this design is NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- IMHO. I have in my tool collection a 22mm blue spot nut remover which I now realise would also have done the job but was worried it might have had too little clearance and damaged the wheel

Wicksie · 4th December 2021, 09:25

I am of course an Iriot - should read locking BOLTS not nuts in case any body is confused by the post

Mike Noc · 4th December 2021, 11:36

Here's another locking wheel bolt tip; take them off and throw them in the nearest bin!

Mike Trident · 4th December 2021, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

Here's another locking wheel bolt tip; take them off and throw them in the nearest bin!

Hear hear!

One of the first jobs I did when I bought mine

bsafly · 4th December 2021, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Noc

Here's another locking wheel bolt tip; take them off and throw them in the nearest bin!

Thats exactly what I did for the tourer and the ZT-T.
DMGRS supplied the new replacement wheel bolts.

COLVERT · 4th December 2021, 21:17

And here's another tip to add to Mike's.

You can just EDIT your first post from nuts to bolts.----

Second post, not required.---

edwardmk · 1st August 2022, 21:47

My recent experience with locking nuts as follows. Went to the garage to check out a slow air leak (driver front around 1psi/day.) Couldn't find the locking wheel nut key.
Drove home and searched 'everywhere'. Looked on the Bay for locking nut removal tools (expensive). Called Rimmer Bros. 'Do you have the locking wheel nut tool for a Rover 75' 'cos I've lost mine'. "Yes!" 'I'd like to order one.' "Give me the serial number of the tool please". 'Where can I find that number?' "It's on the tool'. 'But I've lost the tool!' "Has the previous owner noted down the tool number in your paperwork?" 'Unfortunately not'. "Well unfortunately we can't supply you with the locking nut removal tool".
Expletives deleted, SWMBO overheard, went to the car and found said tool in the ash tray. 'You're blind' I was politely informed. Regardless, happy outcome, although I couldn't find a serial number on the removal tool to note down anywhere. I should probably get the better half to look at the said tool in case I missed it

BRG75 · 2nd August 2022, 06:54

As has previously been stated, there is a strong point of view that they are better thrown away.

The logic is (er) logical.

Bandits will most likely have a general purpose / fit all removal tool, as part of their thieving kit. So the security benefit becomes non-existent.

Secondly, the legitimate removal of wheels can be seriously hampered, if the adaptor is "lost", or (in some cases) damaged to the point of being useless.
The damage can occur if the adaptor has been previously used with an air gun, which is NOT held absolutely square to the wheel.

Having said the above, if for originality you want to keep one, then there is a 2 digit number stamped onto every one that I have ever seen.
Unfortunately, every one that I have seen has the same number (12 from memory).

There are others, as Rimmers has confirmed.

Regards

Mike

sln8458 · 2nd August 2022, 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardmk

...........

Expletives deleted, SWMBO overheard, went to the car and found said tool in the ash tray. 'You're blind' I was politely informed.

This is called 'a man's look' in our house

hogweed · 2nd August 2022, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRG75

As has previously been stated, there is a strong point of view that they are better thrown away.

I haven't got locking nuts, but wonder how likely it is for wheels on our old buses to be stolen nowadays...?

4th December 2021, 08:49	#1
Wicksie Newbie Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Bracknell Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	locking wheel nut tip - it really works! If you have the internal spline type wheel locknuts, the spline has rusted and worn and the key just spins and will not remove the nut - do not despair. I got this tip from you tube but it really does work for our cars. Get a 22mm 12 pointed chrome socket, a 2.5lb club hammer or similar and mole grips or stout pipegrip pliers. Place the socket up against the stuck locknut and Tap the socket until you feel it gripping the circular flange of the nut. Grip the socket with the pliers and give it some healthy wacks - you will find it will force onto the nut for about 10mm I had to use a straining bar to release the nut but it came out with no slipping of the socket. Once separated from the nut on the bench, using a drift, you could see that the socket had cut it's own shallow splines. Footnote: I have purchased 4 new normal wheel nuts and will throw away the remaining locknuts, this design is NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- IMHO. I have in my tool collection a 22mm blue spot nut remover which I now realise would also have done the job but was worried it might have had too little clearance and damaged the wheel

1st August 2022, 21:47	#7
edwardmk Gets stuck in MG ZT 260, Rover 75 Connie SE auto Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Redruth Posts: 984 Thanks: 1,324 Thanked 399 Times in 271 Posts	Make a note of your Locking nut removal tool serial number? My recent experience with locking nuts as follows. Went to the garage to check out a slow air leak (driver front around 1psi/day.) Couldn't find the locking wheel nut key. Drove home and searched 'everywhere'. Looked on the Bay for locking nut removal tools (expensive). Called Rimmer Bros. 'Do you have the locking wheel nut tool for a Rover 75' 'cos I've lost mine'. "Yes!" 'I'd like to order one.' "Give me the serial number of the tool please". 'Where can I find that number?' "It's on the tool'. 'But I've lost the tool!' "Has the previous owner noted down the tool number in your paperwork?" 'Unfortunately not'. "Well unfortunately we can't supply you with the locking nut removal tool". Expletives deleted, SWMBO overheard, went to the car and found said tool in the ash tray. 'You're blind' I was politely informed. Regardless, happy outcome, although I couldn't find a serial number on the removal tool to note down anywhere. I should probably get the better half to look at the said tool in case I missed it

2nd August 2022, 06:54	#8
BRG75 Gets stuck in Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer, 9th & 10th Rovers Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Sevenoaks Posts: 973 Thanks: 670 Thanked 290 Times in 195 Posts	As has previously been stated, there is a strong point of view that they are better thrown away. The logic is (er) logical. Bandits will most likely have a general purpose / fit all removal tool, as part of their thieving kit. So the security benefit becomes non-existent. Secondly, the legitimate removal of wheels can be seriously hampered, if the adaptor is "lost", or (in some cases) damaged to the point of being useless. The damage can occur if the adaptor has been previously used with an air gun, which is NOT held absolutely square to the wheel. Having said the above, if for originality you want to keep one, then there is a 2 digit number stamped onto every one that I have ever seen. Unfortunately, every one that I have seen has the same number (12 from memory). There are others, as Rimmers has confirmed. Regards Mike __________________ Presently 2004 75 CDTi auto Connoisseur Tourer - White Gold 2001 75 2.5 auto Connoisseur Saloon - White Gold Previously 2002 75 1.8 auto Club SE, 2000 75 1.8 auto Classic SE (Company Car) 1997 420 (Company Car) 1996 216 cabriolet, 198? 213 VDP 1986 SD1 V8 VDP, 1968 2000TC, 1966 2000.

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4th December 2021, 09:25	#2
Wicksie Newbie Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Bracknell Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	I am of course an Iriot - should read locking BOLTS not nuts in case any body is confused by the post

4th December 2021, 11:36	#3
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,547 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	Here's another locking wheel bolt tip; take them off and throw them in the nearest bin!

4th December 2021, 21:17	#6
COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	And here's another tip to add to Mike's. You can just EDIT your first post from nuts to bolts.---- Second post, not required.---