Car Cloning.

Lancpudn · 25th July 2022, 12:22

Car cloning is on the rise especially with lots of ULEZ & CAZ's popping up around the country, "The latest data we sourced from Transport for London (TfL) shows an 857% increase in the number of penalty charge notices (PCNs) being cancelled due to the car being a clone in April compared to a year ago, and a 631% increase since the ultra-low emission zone (ULEZ)"
https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/lat...he-pcn-process

A well known EV youtuber had his Kia Niro ev cloned & it was a royal pain to get it sorted out over a few months.

torque2me · 25th July 2022, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Lancpudn

Car cloning is on the rise especially with lots of ULEZ & CAZ's popping up around the country, "The latest data we sourced from Transport for London (TfL) shows an 857% increase in the number of penalty charge notices (PCNs) being cancelled due to the car being a clone in April compared to a year ago, and a 631% increase since the ultra-low emission zone (ULEZ)"
https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/lat...he-pcn-process

A well known EV youtuber had his Kia Niro ev cloned & it was a royal pain to get it sorted out over a few months.

Cheaper to get a set of cloned plates then it is to keep paying out the outrageous "congestion/emission" taxes!

Kev

stevestrat · 25th July 2022, 12:30

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Originally Posted by torque2me

Cheaper to get a set of cloned plates then it is to keep paying out the outrageous "congestion/emission" taxes!

Kev

Unless you get caught.

Lancpudn · 25th July 2022, 12:37

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Originally Posted by torque2me

Cheaper to get a set of cloned plates then it is to keep paying out the outrageous "congestion/emission" taxes!

Kev

Unless you're the poor begger whose car they've cloned & left you to pick up the bill.

FLYING BANANA · 25th July 2022, 14:16

One of the members on here had his car cloned. He got a speeding ticket plus a summons for not paying for petrol. But when the photo’s came through he was able to prove it was not his car that was running up the bills in Rotherham.
The photo’s showed a MK1 MG ZTT, the forum members is a MK2. Also his car is a diesel so he wouldn’t be filling up with petrol.

The police caught the cloned car after he tripped the ANPR. Driver prosecuted and the car was crushed.

torque2me · 26th July 2022, 07:25

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Originally Posted by stevestrat

Unless you get caught.

Most will not, especially if it is the same make, model colour. ANPR will only put out a warning if there is a marker on the vehicle. Otherwise it will be a pass as it conforms to the data held.

Kev

torque2me · 26th July 2022, 07:28

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Originally Posted by Lancpudn

Unless you're the poor begger whose car they've cloned & left you to pick up the bill.

That is the unfortunate part of cloning. The real holder of the index mark gets it in the neck whilst not knowing about events. Civil court, criminal court, Bailiffs...yeah, could be a nightmare to sort-out when innocent.

Kev

roverbarmy · 26th July 2022, 08:23

With so much information available from .gov sources online re tax, mot and insurance, it's not surprising!

Phil th Barrow · 26th July 2022, 12:15

"The police caught the cloned car after he tripped the ANPR. Driver prosecuted and the car was crushed."

I hope it was recycled correctly..

SCP440 · 29th July 2022, 20:32

It happend to my neighbour, he is an old boy who apart from using his car to go to B&Q, the garden centre and the shops once a week it sits on his drive. He was being sent tickets for ULEZ and even had a couple of visits from the Feds saying he had driven off with out paying for petrol. Needless to say he hadnt.

The final straw was some unpaid parking tickets with non payment fees so about £500 so he got a solicitor involved and somehow he managed to sort it with the Police who put a mark on the other car, several days later it was pulled over and the Urks were arrested.

It has cost him the solicitor but he can now sleep at night.

He was told by the police apparently they rarely use perosonalised number plates so he is looking into some cheap plates for his car.

25th July 2022, 12:22	#1
Lancpudn This is my second home MG ZS EV Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 15,566 Thanks: 4,591 Thanked 3,427 Times in 2,565 Posts	Car Cloning. Car cloning is on the rise especially with lots of ULEZ & CAZ's popping up around the country, "The latest data we sourced from Transport for London (TfL) shows an 857% increase in the number of penalty charge notices (PCNs) being cancelled due to the car being a clone in April compared to a year ago, and a 631% increase since the ultra-low emission zone (ULEZ)" https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/lat...he-pcn-process A well known EV youtuber had his Kia Niro ev cloned & it was a royal pain to get it sorted out over a few months. __________________ Blessed are the tea makers. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3b...auto-2000_auto

25th July 2022, 14:16	#5
FLYING BANANA Moderator/Club Shop MG ZT 1.8t+. No.3 of 4 in Sunspot Yellow & Ford Fiesta in Black. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rattler Farm Posts: 22,555 Thanks: 9,270 Thanked 15,645 Times in 6,806 Posts	One of the members on here had his car cloned. He got a speeding ticket plus a summons for not paying for petrol. But when the photo’s came through he was able to prove it was not his car that was running up the bills in Rotherham. The photo’s showed a MK1 MG ZTT, the forum members is a MK2. Also his car is a diesel so he wouldn’t be filling up with petrol. The police caught the cloned car after he tripped the ANPR. Driver prosecuted and the car was crushed. __________________ 233,320. New rear tyres on order for BBB. onen hag oll

26th July 2022, 08:23	#8
roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,050 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	With so much information available from .gov sources online re tax, mot and insurance, it's not surprising! __________________ Oil in my veins!

26th July 2022, 12:15	#9
Phil th Barrow Gets stuck in " NOW SOLD" :-( Rover 75 Conni Auto SE Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stoke Posts: 896 Thanks: 424 Thanked 214 Times in 163 Posts	"The police caught the cloned car after he tripped the ANPR. Driver prosecuted and the car was crushed." I hope it was recycled correctly.. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

29th July 2022, 20:32	#10
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	It happend to my neighbour, he is an old boy who apart from using his car to go to B&Q, the garden centre and the shops once a week it sits on his drive. He was being sent tickets for ULEZ and even had a couple of visits from the Feds saying he had driven off with out paying for petrol. Needless to say he hadnt. The final straw was some unpaid parking tickets with non payment fees so about £500 so he got a solicitor involved and somehow he managed to sort it with the Police who put a mark on the other car, several days later it was pulled over and the Urks were arrested. It has cost him the solicitor but he can now sleep at night. He was told by the police apparently they rarely use perosonalised number plates so he is looking into some cheap plates for his car.