Struggling removing bumper - Page 2

KWIL · 6th December 2020, 10:44

There are some cross head screws in the alternator, which are neither!
JIS = Japanese Industrial Standard, a much less angled +

COLVERT · 6th December 2020, 11:33

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Originally Posted by KWIL

There are some cross head screws in the alternator, which are neither!
JIS = Japanese Industrial Standard, a much less angled +

Just curious,

so you say the alternators are made in Japan.--

Oooops, sorry. was lead off topic.

KWIL · 6th December 2020, 15:12

No but a Denso alternator is a Japanese design, the one in front of me was made by Denso Manufacturing, Tennessee. That's maybe why the only apparent source of bearings (B**- size) is in the USA.

trikey · 7th December 2020, 12:42

They should be either a posi screw or have a 10mm headed bolt depending on the year of the car, I have seen all sorts of fasteners used over the years though, if it’s giving you grief, drill the head off then remove the thread with a pair of mole grips once the bumper is off, ther is no room when the bumper is fitted to get a hacksaw or anything else in.

Avulon · 8th December 2020, 11:01

Just Re read your original post, and replies. I think everyone was thinking of the screw/bolt that goes vertically up into the wing. I think that you meant the wheel arch liner screw to the bumper that faces forward about half-way between the bottom front of the liner and the main vertical screw.
This screws into one of the pressed and folded clips that itself is mounted on a weak plastic lug on the inside of the bumper. My Experience is that these have always been siezed and snapped the lug off of the inside of the bumper. No adverse effects have been noticed due to it not being there. the only way you may reach the back of it is by removing your undertray and the small quarter under panel at the corner of the bumper that links the bottom of the bumper to the wheel arch liner.

Arctic · 8th December 2020, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Avulon

Just Re read your original post, and replies. I think everyone was thinking of the screw/bolt that goes vertically up into the wing.

I have also seen these as screws and as small 10mm bolts.

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I think that you meant the wheel arch liner screw to the bumper that faces forward about half-way between the bottom front of the liner and the main vertical screw.

These are always a screw never seen anything else, if they are stubborn then just press them forward with your thumb and they should pop of the flap they are attached to, then deal with them once the bumper is off.

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This screws into one of the pressed and folded clips that itself is mounted on a weak plastic lug on the inside of the bumper.

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My Experience is that these have always been siezed and snapped the lug off of the inside of the bumper. No adverse effects have been noticed due to it not being there. the only way you may reach the back of it is by removing your undertray and the small quarter under panel at the corner of the bumper that links the bottom of the bumper to the wheel arch liner.

They can be removed and modified if you really wanted that part of the wheel arch liner to be secure.

Use a couple of blocks as these below with a slot sawed into them.

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Fit them to the flap with either some super glue or a screw through them.

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drill a 3mm hole for the stainless screw to go into through the wheel arch liner.

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As above drop some glue into the hold pointed out, or use screw or even a small bolts and nut.

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If OP is referring to the top fixing and it as rounded of then use Irwins bolts remover, or cross head as been damaged dremel slot cut and flat screw driver.

paulh260260 · 12th December 2020, 11:52

Thanks for all your input guys. It seems that the fastener isn't critical so once it stop raining here in Manchester Ill get the drill out and try to remove it that way.

roverbarmy · 12th December 2020, 13:32

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Originally Posted by paulh260260

once it stop raining here in Manchester Ill get the drill out and try to remove it that way.

Does it ever stop raining in Manchester? I used to deliver regularly in Manchester and I always got wet!

paulh260260 · 12th December 2020, 18:59

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Originally Posted by roverbarmy

Does it ever stop raining in Manchester? I used to deliver regularly in Manchester and I always got wet!

Ha Ha I wondered how long it would take for a response like that!!!Must get my garage cleared so I can get some dry space!

It runs · 15th December 2020, 18:18

If you wanted I could send my wife around .
She had no problems whatsoever removing mine.
It's just a shame I didn't want it removing .
She only took the kids to school and I still never actually found out how she managed to do it. ? She didn't even need to slacken any of the bolts

7th December 2020, 12:42	#14
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,763 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	They should be either a posi screw or have a 10mm headed bolt depending on the year of the car, I have seen all sorts of fasteners used over the years though, if it’s giving you grief, drill the head off then remove the thread with a pair of mole grips once the bumper is off, ther is no room when the bumper is fitted to get a hacksaw or anything else in. __________________ Lest we forget..

8th December 2020, 11:01	#15
Avulon This is my second home 1.8t Tourer Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tanelorn Posts: 4,830 Thanks: 956 Thanked 1,148 Times in 916 Posts	Just Re read your original post, and replies. I think everyone was thinking of the screw/bolt that goes vertically up into the wing. I think that you meant the wheel arch liner screw to the bumper that faces forward about half-way between the bottom front of the liner and the main vertical screw. This screws into one of the pressed and folded clips that itself is mounted on a weak plastic lug on the inside of the bumper. My Experience is that these have always been siezed and snapped the lug off of the inside of the bumper. No adverse effects have been noticed due to it not being there. the only way you may reach the back of it is by removing your undertray and the small quarter under panel at the corner of the bumper that links the bottom of the bumper to the wheel arch liner. __________________ Need a T4 ?: T4 Owners Map thanks to Stevestrat ( use at your own risk) Where?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanelorn Mods/Retrofits: PCV vortex 'filter'; bluetooth; inline thermostat; reversing sensors; plenum spyhole ; headlamp washers ; Diy mp3 player replacing CD multichanger; FBH with remote; Headlamp washers; black/chrome front grille, rear blind; Xenon projectors To do: puddle lights; 2 Din cd/nav to fit; boot release button

15th December 2020, 18:18	#20
It runs Avid contributor Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Skelmersdale Posts: 181 Thanks: 15 Thanked 49 Times in 42 Posts	If you wanted I could send my wife around . She had no problems whatsoever removing mine. It's just a shame I didn't want it removing . She only took the kids to school and I still never actually found out how she managed to do it. ? She didn't even need to slacken any of the bolts __________________ Changed everything that needs changing and everything that didn't . It's called preventive maintenance.

6th December 2020, 10:44	#11
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,952 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	There are some cross head screws in the alternator, which are neither! JIS = Japanese Industrial Standard, a much less angled +

6th December 2020, 15:12	#13
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,952 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	No but a Denso alternator is a Japanese design, the one in front of me was made by Denso Manufacturing, Tennessee. That's maybe why the only apparent source of bearings (B**- size) is in the USA.

12th December 2020, 11:52	#17
paulh260260 Still learning... Gold 04 75 Connie SE 2.5 V6 Petrol, Silver 52 Connie SE 2.5 V6 Petrol, 04 BRG Connie 2.5 V6 Petrol Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MANCHESTER Posts: 231 Thanks: 129 Thanked 40 Times in 27 Posts	Thanks for all your input guys. It seems that the fastener isn't critical so once it stop raining here in Manchester Ill get the drill out and try to remove it that way.