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Old 19th May 2021, 19:41   #1
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Default Broken pipe

After a late shopping trip, my wife reported a broken pipe dangling from the underside of our 54 plate 75 CDTI.

The curious thing is she started the car in the car park, tested the brakes and then drove home.

From the quick look I had after a shower, it is rubber hose, almost like a brake flex, joined by a small bore steel pipe with a bulge in the centre.

As it is nowhere near a wheel, and the steel brake pipes running under the car have been renewed, I ruled out anything to do with a brake hose.

As it is near the fuel tank, I initially thought fuel, but the strange thing is the steel pipe is totally rusted closed, and there is no sign of any liquid.

If it is a tank vent, it is in the wrong place, and the car runs fine.

And if it is a fuel return pipe, with it being blocked, surely by now there would be diesel everywhere in the engine compartment.

I will need to jack the car up to see where it leads to and from, but thought it best to ask the assembled brains trust in case somebody has run into this before.

The break in the metal pipe appears simply to be a fatigue fracture, as the clips retaining the rubber section have rusted through and allowed movement.

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Old 19th May 2021, 20:07   #2
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I think that your question is one of those that can really only be answered after a careful physical inspection.---
It seems it connected something to something but what.---
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Old 19th May 2021, 20:31   #3
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Default Broken pipe

I know it is likely I will have to jack up the car to find out where the pipe runs to and from, but thought maybe somebody had seen this before.

I looked at my pukka (telephone book size) Rover workshop manual, but the section on the pipes has a really small and rubbish image of where the pipes run, so indistinct that all it give me is the clue that pipes are in this location.

However, it does mention the charcoal cannister, which would make a candidate.

I took a photo which I hope I have attached, but it is rubbish it must be said.


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Old 19th May 2021, 20:34   #4
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Nothing serious, its the feed pipe for the dosing pump that feeds the FBH, just ensure that the pipes are still connected (If not, plug each end so no diesel can drip out) Then cable tie them back up.
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Old 19th May 2021, 20:38   #5
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Possibly water drain pipe? Especially if it is one end.
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Old 19th May 2021, 22:00   #6
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Deffo not an FBH fuel feed on my 54 plate, project Drive saw to that

And as it is under the rear passenger door on the OS, I cannot think why it would be water related.

As I noted, the actual Rover workshop manual shows some pipes in this area, but it is so rubbish, it is not possible to really make out exactly what is there.

I had two sets of glasses on, but could not make out from the tiny illustrations whether the pipes vaguely illustrated were for diesel/diesel cooler/charcoal cannister.

It is supposed to rain heavily tomorrow, so this may take a while to sort out.

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Nothing serious, its the feed pipe for the dosing pump that feeds the FBH, just ensure that the pipes are still connected (If not, plug each end so no diesel can drip out) Then cable tie them back up.
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Deffo not an FBH fuel feed on my 54 plate, project Drive saw to that

And as it is under the rear passenger door on the OS, I cannot think why it would be water related.

As I noted, the actual Rover workshop manual shows some pipes in this area, but it is so rubbish, it is not possible to really make out exactly what is there.

I had two sets of glasses on, but could not make out from the tiny illustrations whether the pipes vaguely illustrated were for diesel/diesel cooler/charcoal cannister.

It is supposed to rain heavily tomorrow, so this may take a while to sort out.

Best wishes, Frank B

Hi Frank.
I would say Andy is spot on it's the fuel line where the FBH pump fits into the line by the look of the photo. cable tie it back up out of the way.
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Even on the later diesels the fuel line is there, or should be.
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So far as I know, there is no charcoal canister on the diesel, only the petrol engine. More likely to be the above in artics post.
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Hi Frank.
I would say Andy is spot on it's the fuel line where the FBH pump fits into the line by the look of the photo. cable tie it back up out of the way.
Even on the later diesels the fuel line is there, or should be.

Is there any part of the car you haven't photographed Steve? If so it can't be worth knowing . . .
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Is there any part of the car you haven't photographed Steve? If so it can't be worth knowing . . .
Ha ha I doubt it - his collection of 75 photos is huge!

But if I was going to hazard a guess maybe this one?

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