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Old 21st March 2022, 14:47   #11
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They obviously don't know what they are doing - if the ITP fails then as long as you have enough fuel in the tank to cover the top of the ITP the car will run fine on just the UBP.
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Old 21st March 2022, 14:49   #12
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Thanks for all the assistance.

We are in Jersey at the moment and our car is in France.

The garage, the insurance company sent it to, "thought" it was the under bonnet pump. This turned out to be false when it broke down with the same symptoms 32km down the road. Yet another recovery. Now they "think" it is the in-tank pump. I have asked them to give me a price (should hear today 21st March) but balancing it on the price they charged for the under bonnet pump replacement, it will be extortionate. It seems to be a guessing game with the garage even though I advised them of things to look at and test.

So my next option is to have the car repatriated back to England and taken to my local Rover specialist.

I was based near Saint Hilaire de Harcouet in France, but left yesterday with a hire car which will need to be returned at some point. We were based in Pontivy for two weeks, that's when the car was working ok.

Anyway, I will wait for the phone call today and let you all know the outcome.

May have to let the Rover go, shame really as it has only 85000 miles on it and is in good condition.

Thanks again for the replies.



So I am waiting for a phone call
Even if the in tank pump is not working and providing the tank is over a 1/4 to 1/2 full it should still run.
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Old 22nd March 2022, 01:11   #13
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I suspect under bonnet fuel pump or crank/sensor. Hope you get it sorted soon.
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Old 22nd March 2022, 09:04   #14
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I suspect under bonnet fuel pump or crank/sensor. Hope you get it sorted soon.
Rav, From what I gather the UBP has been replaced at great cost, So unless it is the connection
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Old 24th March 2022, 06:48   #15
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Crank sensors usually break down over time and can stop the car whilst running it. An example is the car starts fine in the morning you drive 7 or 8 miles to the supermarket and when you come out it wont start. Rev counter does not move when you turn the car over. Leave it half an hopur and it starts again. Ive been to a few jobs where the bloke works 10 miles away and after 9 miles the car breaks down! Half an hour or so later once the sensor is cool it fires up and away he goes.
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Old 25th March 2022, 07:03   #16
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It has been seen before where the engine cuts out, and fails to restart afterwards.
All the fuel pumps run, giving the impression of a fuel pump failure.
If there is an electrical reason, (such as an intermittent lack of power to the Canbus from the under-bonnet fusebox), the injectors will not fire, and the car will not start.

BigRuss, Marinabrian, and Madamoiselle Colvert have seen the problem repeatedly before on my car, 'Perseverance', and others. There were no other symptoms.

TOAF identified the problem.

https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...0&postcount=23

You could try CB750Chris and his T4, if you are coming back via Portsmouth.

You could try removing an exterior bulb, and see if the bulb failure warning appears, as Canbus errors may stop the bulb failure warning working.

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Old 26th March 2022, 16:10   #17
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Firstly, apologies for not coming back sooner. It has been a busy time with hire cars, hotels, travelling etc.

I would like to thank everyone for their support, ideas and suggestions. They have helped me to keep going.

I have finally convinced the French breakdown service, after submitting a formal complaint, that the only way my car is going to be fixed is for them to repatriate it back to the UK. As France is very much a paper-based nation, I have been quite busy putting all the formalities together. We are probably 90% there so things should be moving in the right direction soon. My car will be going to WH Brand near Spalding, who I have used to service and repair my Rovers over the years so I know it will be fixed properly. They say it should take about 10 to 14 days to deliver my car so, when I find out what the problem is, I will add to this post because, if I were you, I’d like to know what was actually wrong with it.

Watch this space and thanks again.
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Try disconnecting the white 12 way connector, hidden on the underside of the engine fusebox. Clean the contact for the thin yellow with blue wire. This provides power for the k bus, and has been known to make intermittent contact
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The garage have diagnosed that the in-tank fuel pump is at fault. Due to my situation at the moment I have to make the decision, whether to have the repairs carried out or let her go.

I have been considering what I would do with my Rover as I do not really need her anymore. We, my wife and I, are moving to France soon and repairs there would be difficult at best. Also I have sold my house in England so I would have nowhere to store her while the conveyancing goes through. I really do not have the time to organise or advertise her therefore she will be going to the vehicle breakers at the end of the week. Shame as she only has 85000 on the clock, no rust, recent tyres and MOT to Feb 23. She did have a little bang at the back (all repaired), before I bought her and was a salvage car.

We have recently bought a motorhome and should be picking it up in the next few weeks also, it seems, that the Citroen Belingo is the most popular car used in France therefore we will probably get one of those.

I do have a Vauxhall Agila (yes I know) that has been handed down through the family which we are using at the moment to get around.

So there we go, sad but that's the only way I can go forward as I do not need the worry of any future breakdowns.

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions over the weeks and I wish you all well.
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The garage have diagnosed that the in-tank fuel pump is at fault. Due to my situation at the moment I have to make the decision, whether to have the repairs carried out or let her go.

I have been considering what I would do with my Rover as I do not really need her anymore. We, my wife and I, are moving to France soon and repairs there would be difficult at best. Also I have sold my house in England so I would have nowhere to store her while the conveyancing goes through. I really do not have the time to organise or advertise her therefore she will be going to the vehicle breakers at the end of the week. Shame as she only has 85000 on the clock, no rust, recent tyres and MOT to Feb 23. She did have a little bang at the back (all repaired), before I bought her and was a salvage car.

We have recently bought a motorhome and should be picking it up in the next few weeks also, it seems, that the Citroen Belingo is the most popular car used in France therefore we will probably get one of those.

I do have a Vauxhall Agila (yes I know) that has been handed down through the family which we are using at the moment to get around.

So there we go, sad but that's the only way I can go forward as I do not need the worry of any future breakdowns.

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions over the weeks and I wish you all well.
I thought you said the In tank pump had been replaced??
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