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Old 27th May 2022, 16:58   #181
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I wonder, would we be happy and gloating if everybody who flouted those imbecilic rules in any way were to be fined? Hardly adult are we.

The whole thing is gradually falling into farce. Headline news yesterday: 'No Flu figures for 2021 available'. It's about time we saw things for what they really are. Don't panic! Don't panic!
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Old 27th May 2022, 18:25   #182
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Yes, we should all now just accept that BoJo hasnt got to adhere to the same rules as everyone else.
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Old 27th May 2022, 18:58   #183
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Bojo's political enemies have made great efforts to highlight his numerous shortcomings. They imply that if they were in charge things would be perfect. Sadly a good proportion of the electorate appear to believe them.

You can fool some of the people......
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It all comes down to who you believe? It shouldn't I know. but it does. How many of them do you believe? Precious few I'll wager. Who's fault is that?

Those few who have had the honour to resign, or at the very least deny any allegiance, are undoubtedly honourable and living up to their oath. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it? What an embarrassing shambles.

Men/women of principle seem rather thin on the ground lately. 'The Honourable Member for. (whatever)...' seems oddly out of place these days.

Forgive me, the result of an excellent meal (with not quite enough wine) at La Cucina @:Leigh on Sea, Essex. (Recommended). Nightey nite.
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By altering the ministerial code, BoJo will be able to continue to mislead Parliament for as long as he likes.
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Well I suppose we could always adopt an Eastern European model to resolve parliamentary jiggery pokery.

Alternatively, those who either take exception to chicanery or merely criticise from a safe distance, might consider a tentative approach to their elected member. If enough did, there might be some chance of change. But we just sit on our hands and carp.
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I have been in touch with my tory MP a number of times over the past few years. Initially it was about no nhs dentists taking on new patients anywhere in Cumbria. I was sent back the stock reply about how much the government was putting on to the NHS. I said that answer didnt help someone in my position, he then stopped the conversation. I have since been in touch about BoJo bringing the office of PM into disrepute. I now receive an email back saying he will be in touch, then nothing, i must now be blacklisted.
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By altering the ministerial code, BoJo will be able to continue to mislead Parliament for as long as he likes.
It seems appropriate to retell Justice Brandeis of the U.S Supreme Court, "Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or ill it teaches the whole people by example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker it breeds contempt for the law; it invites every man to become a law into himself: it invites anarchy. To declare that in the administration the end justifies the means - to declare that the government may commit crimes in order to secure the conviction of a private citizen would bring terrible retribution.
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I suppose the answer as Trump would advocate is for all honest sane people to bear arms
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prime minister Pinocchio, once a liar always a liar.

He must now earn the right to become a real head of state, by proving to be truthful, brave and selfless, i doubt that is going to happen, He is also assisted by lots of crickets, whom are his assigned conscience, you've heard this story since you were a little boy or girl, and it's still going today except in real life at No 10
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