75 Cdt broken front spring what can I fit???

Bikerogg · 15th February 2010, 19:19

Hi All,
I am a newbie to the forum. I bought a 75 connie cdt saloon on saturday 2001 model on a Y plate. I got up on Sunday morning and decided whilst the car was warming up to check the tyres for wear, thank god I did as the nearside front road spring was broken and sticking into the top of the tyre. From my searches through various posts this seems to be very common on the diesels and very common at sub zero temperatures!!!

My questions to whom ever can answer is: The diesel front springs and the v6 front springs seem to be the same ones is this correct? also Can I fit zt 190 saloon springs to my cdt using my struts? Any help would be appreciated. Kind Regards Ogg

JohnDotCom · 15th February 2010, 20:47

The correct springs are displayed on the label under the back seat swab.
The springs are not the same and there are various models and Dampers for the different specifications/engines etc.
All available from Rimmers and Les at SMC Trading may have some to.

Third party springs do seem to have a one size fits all but cannot comment on those.

Always change springs in pairs.

Welcome to the club by the way.

JohnDotCom · 15th February 2010, 21:00

Spring Details. (do not include V8)

Saloon:

REB101380 Spring-road front coil - Green/Yellow., PA (Green/Yellow), JA (Green/Yellow) £61.15 + VAT
REB101390 Spring-road front coil - Green/Brown, PB (Green/Brown), JB (Green/Brown) £70.02 + VAT
REB101400 Spring-road front coil - Green/Purple, PC (Green/Purple), JC (Green/Purple), PE (Green/Purple), JE (Green/Purple) £63.60 + VAT
REB101420 Spring-road front coil - Green/White, PF (Green/White), JF (Green/White), PK (Green/White), JK (Green/White) £62.95 + VAT
REB101430 Spring-road front coil - Green/Blue, PG (Green/Blue), JG (Green/Blue), PL (Green/Blue), JL (Green/Blue) £63.60 + VAT
REB101440 Spring-road front coil - Green/Grey, PM (Green/Grey), JM (Green/Gray) £62.95 + VAT
REB101600 Spring-road front coil - Pink., PN, JN £60.20 + VAT
REB000430 Spring-road front coil - Brown/Brown, QJ (Brown/Brown), PD (Brown/Brown) £63.36 + VAT
REB000890 Spring-road front coil - RE (Brown/Red), QK (Brown/Red), KV6 - MG Suspension £66.50 + VAT
REB000650 Spring-road front coil - KP (Brown/Blue), NG (Brown/Blue) - 1.8 Turbo OR MG Sports Suspension £62.64 + VAT
REB000900 Spring-road front coil - SH (Brown/Yellow), TJ (Brown/Yellow) - 1.8 Turbo OR MG Suspension £55.07 + VAT

TOURERS:

REB000450 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Grey, PN (Purple/Grey), JN (Purple/Grey) £55.41 + VAT
REB000460 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Pink, PQ (Purple/Pink), JQ (Purple/Pink) NLA
REB000470 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Yellow, PS (Purple/Yellow), JS (Purple/Yellow) NLA
REB000480 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Brown, PT (Purple/Brown), JT (Purple/Brown) £61.82 + VAT
REB000470 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Yellow, PS (Purple/Yellow), JS (Purple/Yellow) NLA
REB000480 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Brown, PT (Purple/Brown), JT (Purple/Brown) £61.82 + VAT
REB000430 Spring-road front coil - Brown/Brown, QJ (Brown/Brown), PD (Brown/Brown) £63.36 + VAT
REB000890 Spring-road front coil - RE (Brown/Red), QK (Brown/Red), KV6 - MG Suspension £66.50 + VAT

Prices are per spring. RRP.

Bikerogg · 18th February 2010, 22:45

I got 2 replacement springs for the front and a set of tyre protectors, had quite a lot of hassle getting them as nobody seems to have them anymore!!!
I tried to tackle the job today and couldnt even get my front wheel off. The wheel nuts were air gun tight and the locking wheel nut thread was basically stripped on the bolt before I got to it. Ive tried everything to remove it, I bashed a socket onto it which gripped but then shredded the outside of the bolt. It has claimed 1 short half inch extension bar, and I cant take the car anywhere to remove the locking stud as it has a coil spring digging into its front tyre!!!!!!!!!!! I am really hacked off with this car now and can see this being a very short ownership. I have always wanted an r75 diesel but the problems are getting me down. Snapped coil spring, flooded front and rear carpets, flooded boot, intemittent fuel pump problem. Sorry for the rant but I hate it when I try to do a job and you get the most stupid problems due to badly designed locking bolts!!!!!!!!!!!!

STUBIE · 18th February 2010, 22:52

Reading the XPart02 statement somewhere on the forum, they state they have sourced a new spring supplier, and that the spring reference colours/numbers will be the same as the orginal OE springs.

More than likely they are using stock springs from one of the large spring makers Kilen, KYB etc and I can't see these companies making specific springs for the different specs.

I have just bought 2 Kilen springs to go on my rears for less than half price of a pair of Rover ones.

Stubs

whey hey a 1000 posts.

Bikerogg · 18th February 2010, 22:59

Hi Stubs, I didnt have a problem obtaining the springs, its the tyre protectors that were the problem. xpart dont have any I ended up getting some from lookers in Preston and it was their last set and they said there is no more. Ogg

STUBIE · 18th February 2010, 23:05

I think rear CDT springs were/are a little rarer but as stated new supplies of these are now from a different source.

Rimmers have all the front tyre protectors www.thepart.com list them as having almost 2000 of these at £7.50 plus vat

Stubs

Bikerogg · 18th February 2010, 23:08

I didnt go to rimmers as they charge a fortune in postage. But as I say Ive got all the parts but can not remove the wheel or move the car. Ogg

David3807 · 18th February 2010, 23:10

Rimmers have about 1962 pairs of tyre protectors.

They bought most of the remaining European stock and had it shipped to the UK.

75ConSE · 19th February 2010, 01:02

Ogg, I feel for you, I went through the same problem as you 2 days before Christmas (but not the rounded wheel nuts). I don't have any real solution for you except to ring a mobile mechanic to get the wheel off.... let HIM struggle in the cold and wet! Not what you want to hear I know, especially as it costs more unnecessary expense, but it would save you falling out too much with what most of us have come to care for and cherish deeply, our 75's and ZT's!

By the way, I phoned the AA and let THEM struggle.... it was recovered to a garage (after phoning a week earlier to get Homestart added to my membership!).

Please don't be too disheartened about the 'problems', there is a LOT of VERY helpful advice on here from a LOT of VERY knowledgeable and helpful people..... it can all be sorted quite easily. There may even be someone in your area that is able to physically help, but please put your town on your membership details so that they show up when you post so that we can all see at a glance whether we could help, or even suggest someone that could.

Note to mod.... could the above suggestion (adding your town) become a compulsory part of becoming a member? It could be very helpful to someone someday.... plus it is nice to know who is in the same area.

15th February 2010, 19:19	#1
Bikerogg Regular poster Rover 75 connie cdt 2010-2011, MG ZT 160+ v6 disaster 2011, 2005 MG ZT 190 Ignition Blue Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Warrington Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	75 Cdt broken front spring what can I fit??? Hi All, I am a newbie to the forum. I bought a 75 connie cdt saloon on saturday 2001 model on a Y plate. I got up on Sunday morning and decided whilst the car was warming up to check the tyres for wear, thank god I did as the nearside front road spring was broken and sticking into the top of the tyre. From my searches through various posts this seems to be very common on the diesels and very common at sub zero temperatures!!! My questions to whom ever can answer is: The diesel front springs and the v6 front springs seem to be the same ones is this correct? also Can I fit zt 190 saloon springs to my cdt using my struts? Any help would be appreciated. Kind Regards Ogg

15th February 2010, 20:47	#2
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	The correct springs are displayed on the label under the back seat swab. The springs are not the same and there are various models and Dampers for the different specifications/engines etc. All available from Rimmers and Les at SMC Trading may have some to. Third party springs do seem to have a one size fits all but cannot comment on those. Always change springs in pairs. Welcome to the club by the way. Last edited by JohnDotCom; 15th February 2010 at 20:50..

18th February 2010, 22:52	#5
STUBIE This is my second home Back in a Rover Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 4,926 Thanks: 131 Thanked 357 Times in 261 Posts	Reading the XPart02 statement somewhere on the forum, they state they have sourced a new spring supplier, and that the spring reference colours/numbers will be the same as the orginal OE springs. More than likely they are using stock springs from one of the large spring makers Kilen, KYB etc and I can't see these companies making specific springs for the different specs. I have just bought 2 Kilen springs to go on my rears for less than half price of a pair of Rover ones. Stubs whey hey a 1000 posts. Last edited by STUBIE; 18th February 2010 at 23:06..

19th February 2010, 01:02	#10
75ConSE Avid contributor Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur SE '02 Auto Saloon Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 145 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ogg, I feel for you, I went through the same problem as you 2 days before Christmas (but not the rounded wheel nuts). I don't have any real solution for you except to ring a mobile mechanic to get the wheel off.... let HIM struggle in the cold and wet! Not what you want to hear I know, especially as it costs more unnecessary expense, but it would save you falling out too much with what most of us have come to care for and cherish deeply, our 75's and ZT's! By the way, I phoned the AA and let THEM struggle.... it was recovered to a garage (after phoning a week earlier to get Homestart added to my membership!). Please don't be too disheartened about the 'problems', there is a LOT of VERY helpful advice on here from a LOT of VERY knowledgeable and helpful people..... it can all be sorted quite easily. There may even be someone in your area that is able to physically help, but please put your town on your membership details so that they show up when you post so that we can all see at a glance whether we could help, or even suggest someone that could. Note to mod.... could the above suggestion (adding your town) become a compulsory part of becoming a member? It could be very helpful to someone someday.... plus it is nice to know who is in the same area. __________________ Paul Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur SE '02 Auto Saloon. Bright and Shiny Zircon Silver. Chrome is where the heart is!

15th February 2010, 21:00	#3
JohnDotCom * Rover 75 FaceLift Tourer CDTi 170BHP Auto ConnSE 2005 Model Starlight Silver Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Abergele Posts: 28,735 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Spring Details. (do not include V8) Saloon: REB101380 Spring-road front coil - Green/Yellow., PA (Green/Yellow), JA (Green/Yellow) £61.15 + VAT REB101390 Spring-road front coil - Green/Brown, PB (Green/Brown), JB (Green/Brown) £70.02 + VAT REB101400 Spring-road front coil - Green/Purple, PC (Green/Purple), JC (Green/Purple), PE (Green/Purple), JE (Green/Purple) £63.60 + VAT REB101420 Spring-road front coil - Green/White, PF (Green/White), JF (Green/White), PK (Green/White), JK (Green/White) £62.95 + VAT REB101430 Spring-road front coil - Green/Blue, PG (Green/Blue), JG (Green/Blue), PL (Green/Blue), JL (Green/Blue) £63.60 + VAT REB101440 Spring-road front coil - Green/Grey, PM (Green/Grey), JM (Green/Gray) £62.95 + VAT REB101600 Spring-road front coil - Pink., PN, JN £60.20 + VAT REB000430 Spring-road front coil - Brown/Brown, QJ (Brown/Brown), PD (Brown/Brown) £63.36 + VAT REB000890 Spring-road front coil - RE (Brown/Red), QK (Brown/Red), KV6 - MG Suspension £66.50 + VAT REB000650 Spring-road front coil - KP (Brown/Blue), NG (Brown/Blue) - 1.8 Turbo OR MG Sports Suspension £62.64 + VAT REB000900 Spring-road front coil - SH (Brown/Yellow), TJ (Brown/Yellow) - 1.8 Turbo OR MG Suspension £55.07 + VAT TOURERS: REB000450 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Grey, PN (Purple/Grey), JN (Purple/Grey) £55.41 + VAT REB000460 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Pink, PQ (Purple/Pink), JQ (Purple/Pink) NLA REB000470 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Yellow, PS (Purple/Yellow), JS (Purple/Yellow) NLA REB000480 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Brown, PT (Purple/Brown), JT (Purple/Brown) £61.82 + VAT REB000470 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Yellow, PS (Purple/Yellow), JS (Purple/Yellow) NLA REB000480 Spring-road front coil - Purple/Brown, PT (Purple/Brown), JT (Purple/Brown) £61.82 + VAT REB000430 Spring-road front coil - Brown/Brown, QJ (Brown/Brown), PD (Brown/Brown) £63.36 + VAT REB000890 Spring-road front coil - RE (Brown/Red), QK (Brown/Red), KV6 - MG Suspension £66.50 + VAT Prices are per spring. RRP.

18th February 2010, 22:45	#4
Bikerogg Regular poster Rover 75 connie cdt 2010-2011, MG ZT 160+ v6 disaster 2011, 2005 MG ZT 190 Ignition Blue Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Warrington Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I got 2 replacement springs for the front and a set of tyre protectors, had quite a lot of hassle getting them as nobody seems to have them anymore!!! I tried to tackle the job today and couldnt even get my front wheel off. The wheel nuts were air gun tight and the locking wheel nut thread was basically stripped on the bolt before I got to it. Ive tried everything to remove it, I bashed a socket onto it which gripped but then shredded the outside of the bolt. It has claimed 1 short half inch extension bar, and I cant take the car anywhere to remove the locking stud as it has a coil spring digging into its front tyre!!!!!!!!!!! I am really hacked off with this car now and can see this being a very short ownership. I have always wanted an r75 diesel but the problems are getting me down. Snapped coil spring, flooded front and rear carpets, flooded boot, intemittent fuel pump problem. Sorry for the rant but I hate it when I try to do a job and you get the most stupid problems due to badly designed locking bolts!!!!!!!!!!!!

18th February 2010, 22:59	#6
Bikerogg Regular poster Rover 75 connie cdt 2010-2011, MG ZT 160+ v6 disaster 2011, 2005 MG ZT 190 Ignition Blue Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Warrington Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Stubs, I didnt have a problem obtaining the springs, its the tyre protectors that were the problem. xpart dont have any I ended up getting some from lookers in Preston and it was their last set and they said there is no more. Ogg

18th February 2010, 23:05	#7
STUBIE This is my second home Back in a Rover Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 4,926 Thanks: 131 Thanked 357 Times in 261 Posts	I think rear CDT springs were/are a little rarer but as stated new supplies of these are now from a different source. Rimmers have all the front tyre protectors www.thepart.com list them as having almost 2000 of these at £7.50 plus vat Stubs

18th February 2010, 23:08	#8
Bikerogg Regular poster Rover 75 connie cdt 2010-2011, MG ZT 160+ v6 disaster 2011, 2005 MG ZT 190 Ignition Blue Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Warrington Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I didnt go to rimmers as they charge a fortune in postage. But as I say Ive got all the parts but can not remove the wheel or move the car. Ogg

18th February 2010, 23:10	#9
David3807 Posted a thing or two 2002 R75 Conn SE 2.5l Auto Tourer, 2001 R75 Conn SE 2.5 Auto Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gravesend Posts: 1,897 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Rimmers have about 1962 pairs of tyre protectors. They bought most of the remaining European stock and had it shipped to the UK.