Advice on spray painting

Bolin · 7th August 2020, 10:30

Hi all, I would appreciate some advice on spray painting window frames (OK for a Fiat Multipla not a 75/ZT).

The frames were covered originally by black stick-on transfers which have wrinkled and peeled off (before we bought the car). I intend to paint the window frames black as a better solution than buying more transfers (if even available now?) as they will only come off again.

The exposed frames appear to be painted the same as the rest of the car (presumably metallic paint with a lacquer). So 2 questions I have are:

1) What grade of wet-or-dry should I use to rub the paintwork down with before painting?

2) Should I use a primer first or not bother? (top coat will be Plasti-cote Satin Black, car is light beige/gold).

And if I do need primer, should I rub that down and if so what grade paper, or even just a special paint scourer-thing?

Any advice gratefully appreciated.

Kindest regards all, Bolin

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AndyN01 · 7th August 2020, 12:43

Hi,

Although it's not quite the same thing, this might help:

https://www.detailingworld.co.uk/for...d.php?t=251392

Not something I've done but it looks like 800 grade wet & dry to start with.

I think it will depend upon what you find as to what happens next. If it's a base coat colour in good condition then you should be good to go with the top coat. If down to metal and/or rusty/duff etc. then you'll need to prime - but it looks OK from the pictures.

All the best with it.

Good luck.

Andy.

trikey · 7th August 2020, 13:01

I always use red scotchbrite for flatting down before repainting, once primed rub down with 2000 grit paper soaked overnight in water, you can then sparky and lacquer.

pletevl · 7th August 2020, 13:06

I would leave it as it is.

You'll be using spray paint from a rattle can, it won't last a year before it starts wearing through.

Pete.

ardvark · 8th August 2020, 04:45

Start off with cleaning the bit you are going to paint.
Mask of the area you are going to paint.
If it's ok scuff it over with some scotch brite.
Any marks or chips rub down with 400 grit paper.
Wipe clean with a cloth to get all the dust off.
Mask and wipe again with a alcohol wipe to get any grease off.
Spray with primer.
When dry lightly scuff over with 800 grit paper.
Wipe clean with a cloth to get the dust off.
Spray with base coat.
Do not scuff down when dry unless dirty.
If it is dirty rub down with 800 grit paper.
Wipe clean with a cloth to get the dust off.
Spray again with base coat.
If happy with base coat and it's dried properly spray with lacour.
When dry spray another coat of lacour.
When dry peal off the masking.
When dry properly I mean a couple of days dry any dirt in the lacour rub down with 2000 grit paper and polish with a soft cloth and the proper polish cream using your finger not a machine DO NOT bear on too hard let the cream do the work.
If happy then finish it off all over using a machine mop.
DO NOT bear on to hard as it take a few weeks for the lacour to air dry properly.
Have fun and lets hope everything goes ok for you.

7th August 2020, 10:30	#1
Bolin This is my second home Rover 75 2.5 V6 Connoisseur SE 4dr manual Wedgewood Blue 2 04-05/06/2001 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: N.E. Hampshire Posts: 4,617 Thanks: 289 Thanked 308 Times in 243 Posts	Advice on spray painting Hi all, I would appreciate some advice on spray painting window frames (OK for a Fiat Multipla not a 75/ZT). The frames were covered originally by black stick-on transfers which have wrinkled and peeled off (before we bought the car). I intend to paint the window frames black as a better solution than buying more transfers (if even available now?) as they will only come off again. The exposed frames appear to be painted the same as the rest of the car (presumably metallic paint with a lacquer). So 2 questions I have are: 1) What grade of wet-or-dry should I use to rub the paintwork down with before painting? 2) Should I use a primer first or not bother? (top coat will be Plasti-cote Satin Black, car is light beige/gold). And if I do need primer, should I rub that down and if so what grade paper, or even just a special paint scourer-thing? Any advice gratefully appreciated. Kindest regards all, Bolin [ __________________ "...the new Rover 75, which is a fabulous car......I think it looks fabulous....It's like sitting in a Rolls Royce......For me, this is the star of the show.....it looks so good" - J. Clarkson, motoring journalist on the launch of the Rover 75 in 1998.

7th August 2020, 13:01	#3
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,760 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	I always use red scotchbrite for flatting down before repainting, once primed rub down with 2000 grit paper soaked overnight in water, you can then sparky and lacquer. __________________ Lest we forget..

8th August 2020, 04:45	#5
ardvark Al 75 CDTI Tourer Auto Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Studley Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 1 Thanked 69 Times in 48 Posts	Start off with cleaning the bit you are going to paint. Mask of the area you are going to paint. If it's ok scuff it over with some scotch brite. Any marks or chips rub down with 400 grit paper. Wipe clean with a cloth to get all the dust off. Mask and wipe again with a alcohol wipe to get any grease off. Spray with primer. When dry lightly scuff over with 800 grit paper. Wipe clean with a cloth to get the dust off. Spray with base coat. Do not scuff down when dry unless dirty. If it is dirty rub down with 800 grit paper. Wipe clean with a cloth to get the dust off. Spray again with base coat. If happy with base coat and it's dried properly spray with lacour. When dry spray another coat of lacour. When dry peal off the masking. When dry properly I mean a couple of days dry any dirt in the lacour rub down with 2000 grit paper and polish with a soft cloth and the proper polish cream using your finger not a machine DO NOT bear on too hard let the cream do the work. If happy then finish it off all over using a machine mop. DO NOT bear on to hard as it take a few weeks for the lacour to air dry properly. Have fun and lets hope everything goes ok for you. __________________ ARDVARK

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7th August 2020, 12:43	#2
AndyN01 This is my second home Toyota RAV4 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tamworth Posts: 3,068 Thanks: 2,478 Thanked 1,579 Times in 968 Posts	Hi, Although it's not quite the same thing, this might help: https://www.detailingworld.co.uk/for...d.php?t=251392 Not something I've done but it looks like 800 grade wet & dry to start with. I think it will depend upon what you find as to what happens next. If it's a base coat colour in good condition then you should be good to go with the top coat. If down to metal and/or rusty/duff etc. then you'll need to prime - but it looks OK from the pictures. All the best with it. Good luck. Andy.

7th August 2020, 13:06	#4
pletevl Posted a thing or two rover 75 cdti(rhd), MG ZR(lhd), MG TF(lhd), MG TF(rhd), mini mpi (lhd), Renault megane III (awful) Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: East of France Posts: 1,278 Thanks: 124 Thanked 114 Times in 93 Posts	I would leave it as it is. You'll be using spray paint from a rattle can, it won't last a year before it starts wearing through. Pete.