Yet Another Clutch Thread

Odd Job · 8th March 2020, 18:01

Hi all,

My clutch master cylinder broke yesterday, it's not burst, it's broke.
The plastic end that fits onto my clutch pedal snapped.

I'll be honest, I'm quite annoyed even though I knew the clutch needed to be sorted I was hoping it'd last until next month and next pay-packet as it's just swallowed over 500 quid getting it through it's MOT.

I'm still confused as to what make of clutch to go for, but now I've the added insult of needing a clutch master cylinder, which from what I can gather there is a fond following of the metal body type.

I see DMGR do a kit with this style of master cylinder in, with a Borg and Beck clutch.
What are everyone's thought's on B&B for the 135 cdti please?

Also, the car is broken down about 10 miles away from me, and rather getting it recovered to my house then trying to get it re-recovered to a garage to get the job done, I've left it where it is until I've made the decision on who / what / where and how.
If anyone recommends someone to do the job near the Derby area, please share.
My recent attempts to have just a top mount replaced was turned down by four places no less!

Many thanks in advance.

A very sad and broke Richard

macafee2 · 8th March 2020, 19:00

I have a B&B clutch on a CDTI and have just towed over 400 miles doing a lot on A roads plus a few 0000 miles without towing. so far not a problem.

LUX Or LUK is also I think recommended. DMGRS have "original" masters and I don't think there is a firm following for the metal body master.

what makes you want to change the clutch?

macafee2

lionatus · 8th March 2020, 19:04

I wouldn't' change the clutch until you need to when it starts slipping. As for a master I've got a LUK for 130 fitted as it only takes an hour if that. Less hassle than the hours they'll take doing the clutch and slave which you'll need to do at the same time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by macafee2

I have a B&B clutch on a CDTI and have just towed over 400 miles doing a lot on A roads plus a few 0000 miles without towing. so far not a problem.

LUX Or LUK is also I think recommended. DMGRS have "original" masters and I don't think there is a firm following for the metal body master.

what makes you want to change the clutch?

macafee2

trikey · 8th March 2020, 19:08

Its quite a common fault believe it or not!

Odd Job · 8th March 2020, 19:12

The clutch doesn't slip, judder or anything,

It's the fact the pedal is ridiculously heavy. So heavy this is what has caused the plastic "eye" on the master cylinder where it fits onto the clutch pedal to snap.

Odd Job · 8th March 2020, 19:16

OK,

I suppose I should be asking the question, "why is my clutch SO heavy on my ZT Cdti? "
What is THE actual component which causes the clutch to need Thor to press it?

macafee2 · 8th March 2020, 21:51

try bleeding the master cylinder to joint in the engine bay then bleed all the way through to the slave. A member bleed his clutch system and apparently made it much better

macafee2

macafee2 · 8th March 2020, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odd Job

OK,

I suppose I should be asking the question, "why is my clutch SO heavy on my ZT Cdti? "
What is THE actual component which causes the clutch to need Thor to press it?

dirty fluid?

macafee2

Odd Job · 9th March 2020, 08:13

Marina Brian has come to my rescue,

he is very kindly posing out a plunger for me to swap over, so obviously I'll be bleeding the clutch thoroughly.
Fingers crossed I can get it back running under it's own steam.

I'll let you know how I get on.

roverbarmy · 9th March 2020, 08:42

Heavy clutch is usually due to loss of spring effect in the pressure plate fingers. Can also be friction in pedal fulcrum points (rare) or rust on the splines. Sorry but usually needs replacing. Try bleeding and good luck.

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8th March 2020, 18:01	#1
Odd Job Gets stuck in MG ZT 2.0 cdti Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Derby Posts: 909 Thanks: 298 Thanked 191 Times in 149 Posts	Yet Another Clutch Thread Hi all, My clutch master cylinder broke yesterday, it's not burst, it's broke. The plastic end that fits onto my clutch pedal snapped. I'll be honest, I'm quite annoyed even though I knew the clutch needed to be sorted I was hoping it'd last until next month and next pay-packet as it's just swallowed over 500 quid getting it through it's MOT. I'm still confused as to what make of clutch to go for, but now I've the added insult of needing a clutch master cylinder, which from what I can gather there is a fond following of the metal body type. I see DMGR do a kit with this style of master cylinder in, with a Borg and Beck clutch. What are everyone's thought's on B&B for the 135 cdti please? Also, the car is broken down about 10 miles away from me, and rather getting it recovered to my house then trying to get it re-recovered to a garage to get the job done, I've left it where it is until I've made the decision on who / what / where and how. If anyone recommends someone to do the job near the Derby area, please share. My recent attempts to have just a top mount replaced was turned down by four places no less! Many thanks in advance. A very sad and broke Richard __________________ ….And the latest thing to break is..... ### MG STANDS FOR "MY GREMLIN" !!!

8th March 2020, 19:08	#4
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,764 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	Its quite a common fault believe it or not! __________________ Lest we forget..

8th March 2020, 19:12	#5
Odd Job Gets stuck in MG ZT 2.0 cdti Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Derby Posts: 909 Thanks: 298 Thanked 191 Times in 149 Posts	The clutch doesn't slip, judder or anything, It's the fact the pedal is ridiculously heavy. So heavy this is what has caused the plastic "eye" on the master cylinder where it fits onto the clutch pedal to snap. __________________ ….And the latest thing to break is..... ### MG STANDS FOR "MY GREMLIN" !!!

8th March 2020, 19:16	#6
Odd Job Gets stuck in MG ZT 2.0 cdti Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Derby Posts: 909 Thanks: 298 Thanked 191 Times in 149 Posts	OK, I suppose I should be asking the question, "why is my clutch SO heavy on my ZT Cdti? " What is THE actual component which causes the clutch to need Thor to press it? __________________ ….And the latest thing to break is..... ### MG STANDS FOR "MY GREMLIN" !!!

9th March 2020, 08:13	#9
Odd Job Gets stuck in MG ZT 2.0 cdti Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Derby Posts: 909 Thanks: 298 Thanked 191 Times in 149 Posts	Marina Brian has come to my rescue, he is very kindly posing out a plunger for me to swap over, so obviously I'll be bleeding the clutch thoroughly. Fingers crossed I can get it back running under it's own steam. I'll let you know how I get on. __________________ ….And the latest thing to break is..... ### MG STANDS FOR "MY GREMLIN" !!!

8th March 2020, 19:00	#2
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,912 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	I have a B&B clutch on a CDTI and have just towed over 400 miles doing a lot on A roads plus a few 0000 miles without towing. so far not a problem. LUX Or LUK is also I think recommended. DMGRS have "original" masters and I don't think there is a firm following for the metal body master. what makes you want to change the clutch? macafee2

8th March 2020, 21:51	#7
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,912 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	try bleeding the master cylinder to joint in the engine bay then bleed all the way through to the slave. A member bleed his clutch system and apparently made it much better macafee2

9th March 2020, 08:42	#10
roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,050 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	Heavy clutch is usually due to loss of spring effect in the pressure plate fingers. Can also be friction in pedal fulcrum points (rare) or rust on the splines. Sorry but usually needs replacing. Try bleeding and good luck. Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk __________________ Oil in my veins!