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Old 29th September 2022, 17:13   #121
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I am not sure what is going wrong with the Key1 (or2) and ground. Looks like you connected it the right way. Maybe (just maybe) there is a difference in behavior between Key1 and Key2 and I have just been lucky to pick the right one.

I know it's a lot of work but you might consider trying the "other" Key wire and see what happens.

I'm just using now the SWC key2 (right) for the volume and that's it.
The key1 (left) pulled gives me a circular menu.
I don't know what to do with the middle one (the one you may push horizontally only).
But to open once more the Pandora box behind? No way!
Mind that I worked upon the Rover ISO plugs only. I don't want to go ahead and I cannot because the loom looks stuck behind. I cannot even gain a millimeter when pulling it and I can't see a jot in that hole. Not doable for me at least.
Both volumes are working fine at the wheel and I've even got a menu I hadn't before.
My lovely and wise grandma Davis used to tell me that the best is the enemy of the good.
It's obvious she was right for she lived as far as the grand age of 103!
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Old 29th September 2022, 17:28   #122
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Sorry! My bad


I meant the wires from the Erisin loom marked Key1 of Key2. So not the buttons of the SWC
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Old 29th September 2022, 17:48   #123
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Sorry! My bad
I meant the wires from the Erisin loom marked Key1 of Key2. So not the buttons of the SWC
You've got 2 SWC wires behind your Erisin ???
I have got one wire only coming from my Erisin, the white wire which looks to be a +.
It's obvious the little black plug at the end of that SWC white wire could have accepted a second one but there isn't unfortunately. That's why following the wise explanations of Roverlike I connected my - wire to an earth.
I can't see any other one coming from my Android.
I was robbed !
It's not the end of the world after all. I'm happy anyway.
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Old 29th September 2022, 18:07   #124
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Look at the wiring diagram in one of your previous photos. You should have two wires in the Erisin loom. Key1 and Key2.
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Old 29th September 2022, 18:52   #125
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I can't find out the wiring diagram you're talking about.
But I'm pretty sure that there wasn't any number on the label "SWC" of my white wire and I haven't butchered anything but the loom I didn't need, so everything had been kept in place in the loom I've used.

In the opposite case I would have looked for the other SWC one, you must be 100% sure, but there wasn't any.

There was indeed another similar white wire (without any label!) but in my notice it reads that one shouldn't connect anything to that one. Sorry it's now too dark and cold but I'll have a look tomorrow on the leaflet and on the box I've kept.
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Old 30th September 2022, 11:26   #126
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I mean this diagram:


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Old 30th September 2022, 17:12   #127
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Now I do understand better what you called KEY1 and KEY2.
Unfortunately that even deepen the mystery in my mind at least.



First the only wire available (= not connected to anything with its bare little plug) and labelled "SWC" on my Erisin is white!
Those Keys 1&2 (I'm unsure about the meaning "key") are brown.
That doesn't match then.

There are 2 white wires in the diagram: FL+ (?) and CAN- (Canbus?).
I haven't still my loom in front of me now, but I assume the white wire I connected as a + one may be (or should be?) the FL+ in the diagram.
And I assume I spliced my - wire with the black wire (#15) which reads "ground".

As I haven't cut anything in the BMW loom provided, and as there were 3 pins missing in the grey plug (1,2,3, both 2 & 3 being mandatory to make it work), I assume that nothing had been connected regarding the SWC and that the work was to be done to comply with the Rover 75 diagram.
Hence I assume that I hadn't to cut any of the wires attributed in the Erisin plug and connected within the loom provided.

Had my "white connection" been wrong no button should work in my car, or 1 and a half of them at least are working which may be considered as an evidence. Vol+in button #1 and button #3 are working fine.
The only mistake I could have done may be connecting my SWC- to the ground wire (but which should have been the right one then?)... But the "SWC" label of the non attributed white wire may be an evidence that it was the right +.

TBH I put my trust in the labels and the colour of the wires rather than in the diagram. I'm not at all skillful enough to master the question so at my modest level I only tried to think logical thanks to the precious bits of information you & Roverlike gave me. I'm pragmatic and all that matters is what I see with my ageing sight and what I understand with my poor brains...

Anyway I'm happy with the result: I've gone at my mechanic's today (for winter tyres & passenger electric seat half functioning) and that circular menu and new volume button fully working were a heavenly grace!
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Regarding Torque Pro is anybody able to connect Erisin to it?
In my 75 it seems that my ELM327 plugged in OBD2 and easy to connect with my phone, cannot even be detected by Erisin!
Any clue?
Thanks a lot.
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BTW the very useful circular menu I've paired with my SWC left button (the one normally allotted to both volumes) is located in the middle of the panel (the one with an horizontal U turn).

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Hello Sjonnie!
I'm still puzzled with Erisin, Torque Pro and ELM327.

It looks that Erisin isn't able to recognize any ELM327, or to be more accurate doesn't recognize any Bluetooth device but the phone.
I've tried several similar softwares as Torque Pro, but the answer is each time the same and it looks that Bluetooth isn't available at all in Erisin configuration.
When I click on the Bluetooth symbol at the bottom of Agama screen, it tells that Bluetooth isn't set up! ???
Worse: I can't find out where are the Bluetooth parameters!
Do you know where they are?
Thanks.
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  • This vehicle was the 1,190th 75 2.5 V6 Contemporary to be made out of 8,214
  • This vehicle was the 2,032nd 75 in Atlantic Blue Pearlescent (code: JEY) to be made out of 2,572 Atlantic Blue Pearlescent 75s

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