Energy bills

[roverbarmy]

If you have to spend more on fuel and power, you have less to spend on imported junk, luxuries and foreign holidays. That means more will be spent in the UK and will help balance the books!

[MSS]

Originally Posted by roverbarmy

If you have to spend more on fuel and power, you have less to spend on imported junk, luxuries and foreign holidays. That means more will be spent in the UK and will help balance the books!

We think alike. Cheap essentials such as energy and shiploads of cheap junk have led to a terrible waste during the past 25ish years. Not to mention the stupid, goverment funded using taxpayer's money, increases in house prices.

There is a need to rethink and rebalance our lifestyles.

[roverbarmy]

Interesting article from the BBC. Particularly the section on "Who is profiting" :-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-62644537

The same oil companies that have been covering up (and lying) about global warming effects of oil usage for decades. Presumably they are still as powerful as ever and have us over a "barrel" and will make as much as possible before their exploits kill us all and the planet anyway!

[BigRuss]

Good news let's hope it continues:
http://https://www.cityam.com/gas-prices-plunge-as-germany-closes-in-on-storage-targets/

If it does continue it would mean a drop in the electric pricing also as 38% of the UK electricity generation is powered by gas.

Russ

[Saga Lout]

Originally Posted by BigRuss

Good news let's hope it continues:
http://https://www.cityam.com/gas-prices-plunge-as-germany-closes-in-on-storage-targets/

If it does continue it would mean a drop in the electric pricing also as 38% of the UK electricity generation is powered by gas.

Russ

I'm sure that if wholesale prices dropped by 90% we wouldn't see it passed on, it never happens. They'll get used to the high income and won't want to give it back.

[Gate Keeper]

I was chatting to someone and the question was asked how is he going to get through the winter as his house is open plan.

Are there any energy saving/Scrooge tips we can pass on?

For starters, we never boil a kettle during the day. All of the boiled water is collected off peak which then goes into a large vacuum flask.

[BigRuss]

Originally Posted by Saga Lout

I'm sure that if wholesale prices dropped by 90% we wouldn't see it passed on, it never happens. They'll get used to the high income and won't want to give it back.

Very true unfortunately, and the way the markets work we wouldn't see any decrease (if any)for months anyway.

Russ

[wraymond]

Originally Posted by Gate Keeper

I was chatting to someone and the question was asked how is he going to get through the winter as his house is open plan.

Are there any energy saving/Scrooge tips we can pass on?

For starters, we never boil a kettle during the day. All of the boiled water is collected off peak which then goes into a large vacuum flask.

Washing up after a dinner for four draws a bowl sink full of water from a tank heated by gas central heating or immersion heater containing how many gallons? Plus, the initial flow from the hot tap draws cold water from the tank (outlet at the bottom because heat rises) so that then is replaced by more cold. Which is then heated and stored and getting colder.

The same task takes a maximum of two kettles-worth heating about four (?) pints of water, not necessarily boiling, to an adequate temperature. Occasionally, a squirt of cold is even needed to enable bare-handed washing. The tank element is a multi-coil of considerable size – many times bigger than the kettle.

Add to that, a shower for one lasting only one minute is sufficient for purpose. Unless, of course, one is not two. People, I mean.
Saving: about £20 on your monthly DD? About £250 a year? QED.

[MSS]

Originally Posted by Gate Keeper

I was chatting to someone and the question was asked how is he going to get through the winter as his house is open plan.

Are there any energy saving/Scrooge tips we can pass on?

For starters, we never boil a kettle during the day. All of the boiled water is collected off peak which then goes into a large vacuum flask.

Maintaining one degree of heat in an average size house used to cost just over £105 PA. Now it's probably three times this amount. Living in a very old house, we've found 16C to 18 C to be a very comfortable temperature. The body adapts to the lower temperatures quite quickly. This must be the biggest saving a person can make to their energy bills.

[Lancpudn]

The outlook for the New year isn't looking too rosy according to one financial outlet https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nflation-to-18