world in a real mess

[kaiser]

This crisis is a little:

[kaiser]

Originally Posted by Gate Keeper

Thank you Mr K for such a speedy and thoughtful reply. At the farm on the Helderberg in a cupboard, I still have the new OEM bearings and ABS sensor you asked for (ages ago). I was hoping to post them to you. If you remember there was a postal strike at the time of our last visit to the Cape and couldn’t do it. Hopefully this will be achieved if we are allowed back into South Africa in October I wonder what the chances are of the borders being reopened to the likes of us. In this situation I feel very much at the mercy of the authorities, but South Africa is still a country for the entrepreneur However, I fear what this virus will do to the people in South Africa and it’s economy.

I heard yesterday there was a mass exodus of motorists panicking and fleeing Nairobi into the countryside and the bush. Little do they realise by doing this, they will be taking the virus to the tribes and remote regions.

The building project consists of converting a double storey store on the mountain into a 3 bedroom apartment with a drive in underground garage overlooking the sea. This will be for the family to use including ourselves and it will enable us to rent out the other houses on the farm. All the money from the rents is ploughed back in for the upkeep of the farm, the mountain and meeting the statutory requirements for keeping the fire breaks up together ....that’s the plan, it’s just as well Jessica and myself are both retired.

forgot all about the bearing and the ABS sensor. I have a problem on the V8, the new bearing I put on has no magnets or is installed the wrong way! And I had a problem on the V6 tourer, with the ABS pick up, it seems to have rectified itself, but I would be interested in both items, when time is right!
As for the virus here, it will be largely untreated, I'm afraid. And there are a lot of people with underlying conditions, so it is about to hit hard, I expect. However we have a lot of sunlight and high UV, that might be in our favour, and people here are not ready to just keel over and go home. But we will see. I feel sorry for all that are affected one way or the other, but this is life. A disease we all suffer from, life, and it is 100% deadly.
Make the most while here, and have no regrets when moving on. We can control some things, but there are limits which we come up against. That is just how it is. My greatest comfort is that it spares the children.

Fleeing Nairobi and getting into the bush is not going to help much I would think. They will revert when they run out of food and water.

Your building project sounds like a dream coming true! I can just imagine how absolutely wonderful that will be. Enjoy the creation and all the anticipation that goes with it. A worthwhile task in your retirement.
And if that can be done by whatsap, go for it!!

We have only fear to fear. The rest we can fight.

[postbasher]

Originally Posted by kaiser

While what you say is possible, there are other, diametrically opposed theories to that.
https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/china-...d-war-with-us/

Who knows?
We certainly have seen stupid things before. This, however takes the game to a new level.
It is all about control, and we are just the pawns.

many thanks Kaiser..that led me down a very interesting rabbit hole...Asia Times and consortium news for starters...
Evil is surely walking the earth all the time but as you say this is a whole new level for modern times...and we are indeed simply pawns in a game...collatoral damage.

[kaiser]

Originally Posted by postbasher

many than
Many thanks Kaiser..that led me down a very interesting rabbit hole...Asia Times and consortium news for starters...
Evil is surely walking the earth all the time but as you say this is a whole new level for modern times...and we are indeed simply pawns in a game...collatoral damage.

Ha ha. You are more than welcome. Only glad you give it some thought! Now the trouble starts, it is literally red or blue pill.
Once you start lifting the carpet, you can't help noticing what has been swept under it.
It is dangerous for your mental health, but good for your soul.
You are about to be blown away.

And why is this so? because most people simply can't make themselves believe what they see. Their mind goes limp at the prospect of having been manipulated their whole life, and simply refuses to believe what they physically see. Cognitive dissonance. I have found a nice talk for you. When you have time, listen to it, you will find it fascinating, I think.
It explains why good people do nothing.
https://kboo.fm/media/59805-why-good...orse-about-911
I can recommend many of these podcasts if you want to give it some thought. Good music, intelligent conversation, well produced.
So?? Is it red or blue. Up to you

[Old Mally]

The way I see it, we either do nothing, carry on as normal, and let Corona run riot.
Me, and many of you no doubt, dead in the streets, dig a big hole, no problem!
Whilst this is happening over say 6 months, all NHS functions collapse.
No Ambulance to take little Johnny to hospital when he falls and breaks his leg, no bed when they eventually get him there.
Or we do as we are told. We still all get it, but more level over a longer period of time, thus allowing the NHS to mend Johnny as well as tend to me.
I don't mind being chucked in the hole myself, so either way for me.
Johnny may think otherwise.
I will say though that I never expected a Tory government to throw money at the problem in the way they say they will. Good luck to them, right or wrong.

[marinabrian]

Originally Posted by Old Mally

The way I see it, we either do nothing, carry on as normal, and let Corona run riot.
Me, and many of you no doubt, dead in the streets, dig a big hole, no problem!
Whilst this is happening over say 6 months, all NHS functions collapse.
No Ambulance to take little Johnny to hospital when he falls and breaks his leg, no bed when they eventually get him there.
Or we do as we are told. We still all get it, but more level over a longer period of time, thus allowing the NHS to mend Johnny as well as tend to me.
I don't mind being chucked in the hole myself, so either way for me.
Johnny may think otherwise.
I will say though that I never expected a Tory government to throw money at the problem in the way they say they will. Good luck to them, right or wrong.

The question I have Peter is a simple one, do you have enough toilet roll?

While I'm sure you believe the nonsense that is being whipped up into mass hysteria by the press, there are some who simply do not subscribe to the "terrifying" figures being touted.

My only concern is will there be pieces of society big enough to be repaired once this lunacy has ended, or whether the architects of this "pandemic" will have achieved what they set out to do.

There have been diseases for which there have been no cure in the past, and never in my lifetime has there been such panic measures employed......so what are we not being told is the question

I simply hope society can survive this madness.

Brian

[Saga Lout]

Originally Posted by marinabrian

The question I have Peter is a simple one, do you have enough toilet roll?

While I'm sure you believe the nonsense that is being whipped up into mass hysteria by the press, there are some who simply do not subscribe to the "terrifying" figures being touted.

My only concern is will there be pieces of society big enough to be repaired once this lunacy has ended, or whether the architects of this "pandemic" will have achieved what they set out to do.

There have been diseases for which there have been no cure in the past, and never in my lifetime has there been such panic measures employed......so what are we not being told is the question

I simply hope society can survive this madness.

Brian

As usual, thinking like me about the wider view. The seasonal flu comes around each year and we're told to get the flu jab, there's still thousands of deaths from each seasonal flu each year. If this man made virus isn't going to kill as many as the seasonal flu, then why is there so much fuss? Is it because there's something we're not being told as usual, is it why my local council workman across the road has been told he might be digging mass graves soon? Is it that there are four markers in the virus linked to HIV? It's for certain that the wider public are being misled yet again but, we don't yet know why. It will be lockdown soon, there's no doubt about that, there is no safer option than that.

[Old Mally]

I have sufficient toilet roll, but not an excessive amount.
I am aware the press is prone to exaggeration, but when every country in the World is reporting the same events, and independently taking similar actions, I find it hard to believe that they are all wrong.
Keep your head down in the sand, it may blow over.
Ever watched someone die with lung problems? It's not pretty.

[roverbarmy]

Not sure how many of you have see this from Bill Gates in 2015!


You may need Farcebook to view it.

[marinabrian]

Originally Posted by Old Mally

I have sufficient toilet roll, but not an excessive amount.
I am aware the press is prone to exaggeration, but when every country in the World is reporting the same events, and independently taking similar actions, I find it hard to believe that they are all wrong.
Keep your head down in the sand, it may blow over.
Ever watched someone die with lung problems? It's not pretty.

As it happens I've seen what you describe first hand Peter, however who is manipulating the world events behind the scene is what I believe is important here.

78000 people die each year in the UK alone as a result of smoking related illnesses, on the face of it a huge figure, however this is 0.12% of the population.

What no one has yet calculated based upon the limited data available the effect this new upper respiratory tract illness will have upon the population, a mortality rate of one percent, ten percent, higher, lower ?

It is of course entirely possible to project the figures based upon what we know now, or at least what we are being told now.

There is only one thing in life which can be assured, and I believe we can as individuals calculate risk and assess whether or not that risk is acceptable to us personally, and act accordingly.

Scaremongering by third parties is not helpful in allowing people to make informed decisions, nor are ill considered kneejerk reactions, what would be helpful here is to be told the facts, and not sugar coated lies about how the state is going to take care of us all

Brian