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Old 9th March 2015, 10:57   #1
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Hi All,

after replacing my clutch (twice) along with the slave and master cylinder the pedal needs pulling up everytime and if I don't pull it up my clutch pedal stays on the floor and I can't change gear.

I have bled it thoroughly and ALL the parts are new. Is there anything I am missing? Its not using fluid and I have done 5k miles in it now (I do about 1200 a week) and it just won't come right. It feels like there's no fluid in it but there is and when I bleed it, it flows with no air bubbles. Any suggestions?

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Old 9th March 2015, 11:55   #2
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Hi All,

after replacing my clutch (twice) along with the slave and master cylinder the pedal needs pulling up everytime and if I don't pull it up my clutch pedal stays on the floor and I can't change gear.

I have bled it thoroughly and ALL the parts are new. Is there anything I am missing? Its not using fluid and I have done 5k miles in it now (I do about 1200 a week) and it just won't come right. It feels like there's no fluid in it but there is and when I bleed it, it flows with no air bubbles. Any suggestions?

thanks
Hi, welcome to the club ;sure ,you get some micro leak somewhere.

The first OEM parts where prefilled and checked ,so no problem;now it' s another story .

You can put the circuit under pressure

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And check these critical points

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thanks.

i will try this, (except the slave!!!!). would i not be noticing some fluid loss though? It's not a subtle feel on the pedal. It just goes altogether and then when you lift it up it works fine again. This is not intermitent it is with every push on the pedal.

thanks very much for the diagram. it looks useful
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In my case,i got 3 points

-the jonction copper/tazu and the quickfit union not tighten enough .

And last but not least ,bleed nipple (not really solved so far)
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Is there not a return spring on a clutch pedal? please excuse my lack of knowledge
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Is there not a return spring on a clutch pedal? please excuse my lack of knowledge
No,they are the spring blades of the diaphram which push back the pedal via
the hydraulic fluid (if no leak of course )
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No,they are the spring blades of the diaphram which push back the pedal via
the hydraulic fluid (if no leak of course )
Ah, thank you, maybe getting close to the answer
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There is a pedal spring Heddy, but as Mike says the pedal is pushed back up by hydraulic force.

Looking at it the pedal spring just prevents the weight of the pedal from resting on the slave cylinder rod when the clutch isn't being used.
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Disaster,

clutch just failed altogether 400 miles from home.

There is no fluid loss and reservoir is full. Pedal just goes to the floor with hardly any pressure. If i pump it makes a squishing sound but no pressure. I am assuming its the master cylinder but before I spend more money i would really appreciate some opinions.
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Disaster,

clutch just failed altogether 400 miles from home.

There is no fluid loss and reservoir is full. Pedal just goes to the floor with hardly any pressure. If i pump it makes a squishing sound but no pressure. I am assuming its the master cylinder but before I spend more money i would really appreciate some opinions.
#not sure but i have this problem
you gotta pump it then bleed it and do it again and again(2man job) you deffo have leak squish noise is air in fluid trying to pressurise in the master
#maybe can get you going for while
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